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On days like today when there are wind gusts in excess of 40 to 50 mph, I've noticed that a good number of boats sink right on their moorings when the tides turn against the wind.

This is something that I've never seen addressed in any "how-to" articles, but I've noticed this happen often over the years. The wind against the tide forces boats to sit on their moorings broadside to the waves. As we all know, when the wind blows against the tide it causes "rips". The increase in wave height combined with the additional spray seems to be enough to test the bilge pumps of the moored boats.

A defective float switch, clogged pump or a dead battery is all it takes to turn a bad situation into a horrible one. Once a boat starts to fill with water, the excess weight seems to amplify the situation by causing the boat to sit deeper in the water and begin to roll. On days like today when the winds won't let up, boats can easily capsize and sink as a result.

My wife watched this very scenario happen today to a 19 foot runabout moored near our house. Less than two hours into the outgoing tide the boat flipped over and then slowly sank. Every year I wittness this happen to two or three boats.

My question is, in addition to adding a backup pump and battery, what other precautions can an owner of a moored boat take to prevent this kind of tragedy? I was thinking that a second anchor planted downwind/uptide might help keep the bow pointed into the wind. Of course, it would have to be removed or relocated as soon as the wind shifts direction.

On the LI side of the Sound, this threat is the highest in most harbors/rivers during the outgoing tide when there is any kind of strong North winds. On the CT side it's worse during the outgoing with strong South winds.
 

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Cover it

If the boat does not have a self bailing ****pit the only way to go is with a Mooring cover...
That should do the trick for smaller craft like that 19 footer. Up to about 26 or so feet, they can be custom ordered (West Marine, Boaters World, Cabelas) to fit your boat. They are not cheap but the long haul savings is worth it.
Not only do they protect the interiors finish but they help save battery life, especially when there is a lot of rain.
They can save your boat too...
 

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Freddyfluke,

Great advice. Sometimes taking the cheap easy road can be the mostly costly in the end. A good mooring cover combined with one of those rotating propellers should also help save a moored boat from bird droppings. Sounds crazy, but I've seen moored boats covered from bow to stern by birds.
 

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suggestion

make sure your scuppers and drain holes are clear and there is no debris or garbage on deck that could possibly make its way to clog up the drain hole

otherwise keep the boat as light and floating as high as possible bu offloading eqiptment. this will also help if the boat does sink as you dont loose all your stuff

and a nice tight cover

dino
 

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Maybe the kind of guy who lives by the water but has no idea who owns all those boats moored out there?

Exactly. When I meet new people I always tell them that they should leave me their phone number in case I see something unusual. The response here on the North Shore is many times a negative one with their nose up in the air.

I try.

But too many boaters think that they, their boats and their gear are perfect. Even so, I still often run to the rescue of a stranger's boat whenever possible. However, I'm not going to risk my life or put my own boats in harms way. I've done that one too many times in the past. No boat or other material object is worth that kind of risk.

That's what insurance is for...
 

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Wonder about what ?? Why he did not risk his neck ?? I would not do it either.
He did say his wife watched it.
What is he supposed to be the shepard of the moorings, just because he lives on the water ?? What would you have him do ??
It not Doc's (or his wife's) responsibility to watch these guys boats.
Serves the guy right if you ask me...not that anyone did, but you can be sure if I stick my boat out on a mooring I'm going to make sure it is secure out there, and not rely on anyone but myself to watch over it.
 

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you can be sure if I stick my boat out on a mooring I'm going to make sure it is secure out there, and not rely on anyone but myself to watch over it.


I often think that some people stick their boats out on moorings just to get them out of their driveways for the summer. There are always boats that are used only once or twice a season. These are usually the first boats to go under when there is a storm (probably because their batteries haven't been charged all season).

Then there are those who neglect their boats so much that they get this crazy idea to keep them moored all winter! If it gets cold enough for surface ice to form, then it is always only a matter of time before disaster strikes. If the ice doesn't slice through the mooring rope, it will often start to form icicles that creep up the rope.

Once the icicles grow their way up to the bow, they then start to form a skirt of ice around the entire boat. The extra weight of the ice causes the boat to sit too low in the water. With the scuppers already frozen shut, the very next strong blow is usually the one that puts enough water into the boat to pull her under.
 

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Doc - speaking of guys who just put their boat on a mooring & leave it there........

I wish that one guy would get his outta there. I've never seen it off the mooring & it's right in my prime eel drifting spot.

Also - how about the ones that put a mooring in & never attach anything to it. We've got one of those in the same spot. I think this annoys me more then the boat that's never off it's mooring.

Both occupy valuable eeling territory. Can't tell you the amount of tackle & bait that I'ver lost on both of them.

Believe me - I've contemplated more then once cutting the mooring only mooring loose & dragging it up on the beach at low tide.

Contemplated - never seriously acted on it though.

Just letting off a little steam.

By the way - do you know either of these guys? Especially the mooring only sailor.
 

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O.K. Freddy is that how it is in your area. Now I know.
If I see your canvas blew off your boat or the moring line is wrapped around your prop and your stern to the wind.
I'll do the old Montauk look away.
speaking of salvage rights if you got to keep the boat you saved the doc's neck would have been risked.
 

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Last Blow

Last Wednesday during the blow. Two 25' sailboats and a 45' sail boat broke free of the moorings in Hempstead Harbor. The 1st 25 footer smashed into the bulkhead at Cliff Way in Sea Cliff. It almost took down the power lines and knocked down 50' of chain link fence. When I went to the office at Brewers Marine to report it they could care less. They said " hey we called Sea Tow and the Coast Guard but they are not going out in this. (Granted no people on board). The 2nd 25 footer cleared the Jetty at Sea Cliff but went all the way into the South end of Hempstead Harbor. Not sure what happened to that one. The first one is totaled and has since been removed from the bulk head. The 45 footer was owned by a newbie I personally know. He "borrowed" a mooring but it was not strong enough and the boat wound up on the Eel grass between Glen Cove and Sea Cliff Yaght Clubs. He paid big money to have it craned off yesterday. This knucklehead says he sailing to NC Monday. I told him sure...hurricane season is a great time for sailing up the East Coast.
 

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Nice big cabin cruiser up on the beach in Mt.Sinai after the blow. Looks undamaged but I'll bet someone is already listing his electronics on EBAY !

I used to try to save boats either physically or by notifying someone, but I got some negative replies. Town of Brookhaven people at Mt. Sinai have basically just been not interested in moored boats ( they wil call owner if it is at on of the town docks ) and the local marinas look at me like I am nuts to expect them to do something when boats on moorings rented from them are banging together. I haven't totally given up, but I don't go out of my may as much as I used to.

Most common problem at Town Docks on North SHore is that lines get tangled on the "pipes" at low tide and drag the boat down when the tide comes up. There are ways to prevent this, but they are not 100%. I have cut many boats loose from this situation, and make a practice of leaving a sharp knife in sticking from the rodholder of my boat so that a good samaritan might be able to save it if it happened. Since we usually share "rings" with boats on either side, lots of unexpected things can and do happen.
 
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