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I'm hoping we can move the discussion on LIBBA from the Buggy-Up thread to this one and keep that one on topic for the get-together.

I am very glad to say that I have been a member of LIBBA since 1989. In the years prior to that I walked the beach and I too felt like many do today, that it was only for "those guys in the trucks" and offered no benefit to the surfrat on foot.

The year I had my first 4x4 I was fortunate to cross paths with Billy (Sandman). We struck up the usual beach conversation which in turn led to Bill's dissertation on LIBBA. He had membership kits in the truck and at by the end of our conversation I was a member. I have attended many past grass plantings and beach cleanups but still I am not able to accurately represent their accomplishments.

With all the recent activity regarding LIBBA and what they stand for and questions of why they should be recipients of raffle proceeds I reached out to two very long time members of the organization. Chuck Hollins (President) and Larry Carlucci (Executive V.P.) both responded my request to possibly provide a clearer explanation of LIBBA's accomplishments and track record. With their permission I am pasting these below.
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This year LIBBA turns 50 years old. Not bad for an organization started by a few wise surfcasters back in 1958 to preserve beach vehicle access and their way of life for themselves and future generations. It was because of these volunteers and the many that followed that we can drive and fish on Breezy Point, Gilgo Beach, Cedar Beach, Democrate Point, Fins, Smith Point, Great Gun, Cupsogue, Shinna****, South Hampton, East Hampton, Neapague, Hither Hills, Shagwong, and Montauk Point. While some of these beaches have limited access because they are town beaches, others like the state and county beaches are open to all. If it were not for these early volunteers, we would not have any drive on beach access at all.
This brings me to my point. Volunteers, without them LIBBA would not be the effective organization that it is. It is the volunteers that make this organization strong, and to be stronger we need more volunteers, we need new volunteers, and we need volunteers with new ideas. Many members of this board have served for a long time, and have served LIBBA well. It is time for new blood to join this board. For example, we need a new Editor for the LIBBA newsletter, someone with new ideas on getting LIBBA?s message out to the membership and non-members as well. Someone who can launch LIBBA into the next 50 years. We need representation from those members who live on the east end. I have said this before, I know of two surf fishing clubs on the east end, we would love to have their representation on this board. This board is often the last to know about access problems out east, this because of the lack of representation. The same goes for the western half of Long Island. We can use a director or two who fish the Rockaways. I am from Long Beach, and don?t fish out west as much as I used to. A director from Brooklyn or Queens would fill this void well.
Not only do we need volunteers to increase representation and communication, we need volunteers to cover the many good activities that put LIBBA in the light with our politicians and governmental agencies. I am talking about the beach cleanups and grass planting. Also there are the things we do for the membership like the Annual Meeting, The Spring Surf Seminar, The Jamboree, The LIBBA Montauk and South Shore fishing Derbies in the fall, The Kenny Karwick Yearlong Fishing Contest, The Marine Scholarship dinner at Atlantis, and last but not least ?Operation Holiday Spirit?. All these great activities happen because of our volunteers and the work they do. In order to keep these activities going strong we need new volunteers to continue the tradition. I ask you, do you enjoy surfcasting, do you enjoy your beach vehicle access, do you want your children to have the same outdoor experience you now enjoy, now is the time to volunteer, even if it is only a few hours per month. You will be passing on the gift those volunteers of 1958 passed on to you. Long live the ?Keepers of the Beach?.
Tight lines, Larry Carlucci #1258 Exec VP & Treasurer
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Happy Anniversary LIBBA!

I have to apologize to everyone for not getting a news letter out sooner. We are still looking for new editor for the ?LIBBA Newsletter? to replace Bill Townsend who retired last year after several years of devoted service. Time was running out so we figured we would send out a simple letter to let everyone know what's going on.
First, this is our 50th year and your LIBBA directors are busy making special plans for the up coming events. Our annual meeting is coming up on Sunday March 9th at 11:00 am, at the same place as last year the Ancient Order of Hibernians, 27 Locust Av. Babylon 11702. Their phone number is 631-661-8934 just in case you cannot find the place. This year we are looking to add some special touches so come on out. This is the best time to find out what is going on and what condition your beaches are in.
On April 5th LIBBA will be holding its 3rd annual Surf Fishing Clinic at the Bob Sweeny Sports Fishing Education Center on Ocean Parkway Cedar Beach Marina Babylon. There will be flyers at the meeting on the speaker and starting time.
On April 13th, we will be doing our annual beach grass planting project at Robert Moses. This year we were asked by New York State Parks if we could do this at the Captree Boat Basin. This winter sand was put along the parking area and beach and they need grass planted to help stabilize it. So we will meet in the Captree parking lot at 9:00 am. Breakfast and lunch will be served.
On April 27, we are doing our clean up this will stay the same Robert Moses field 2 9:00am and lunch will be served.
On May 17th, we will be doing our annual beach clean up at Suffolk County Shagwong Park in Montauk.
We will also be helping with the Striper Surf Club clean up at West End two on April 12th, and MSA clean ups in Montauk and Cedar Beach. So you can see already the year is starting out busy.
So far none of the beaches have taken a hard hit from storms this winter and with any luck all the beaches should be open. Fire Island Inlet and Cedar Beach are in the middle of a dredging project and it looks like they may have enough time to fill in the road way onto the beach.
Just a reminder your dues are do at the beginning of the year so if you haven't paid now is the time. If you have paid your 2008 sticker and cards have not been sent out yet, we are waiting for a new decal being made just for the 50th.
Hope to see everyone at the annual meeting!

Chuck Hollins
President LIBBA
?Keepers of the Beach?
 

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Thanks for that post Paul. I haven't felt that anyone here has been in opposition to LIBBA. The questions have just centered around what LIBBA is involved in doing - this post helped answer that question very well.
John, you're question as it relates to the LIBBA (or MSA for that matter) vs. surfers. I don't think that will ever be resolved and I'm as optimistic as they come.

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walleyeman wrote:
Thanks for that post Paul. I haven't felt that anyone here has been in opposition to LIBBA. The questions have just centered around what LIBBA is involved in doing - this post helped answer that question very well.
John, you're question as it relates to the LIBBA (or MSA for that matter) vs. surfers. I don't think that will ever be resolved and I'm as optimistic as they come.

Kev, unfortunately I agree with you. That is what has kept me from becoming a "card carrying" member of either organization in the past. I have participated in events for both, but never really contributed monetarily. I have come to the realization that I am not really comfortable with that fact. This year I decided to become a member of both organizations. Like I mentioned on the other thread, I am curious to see if having both organizations represented on my buggy will spark up any interesting conversations on the beach in the future. Talk about a walking contradiction!!!!

John (Sparky) don't forget, I am John too. Hope all is well with the fam. New addition has arrived if I am not mistaken?
 

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THANK YOU

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see , ask the question and the right answers are not far away and represented well by the right people. I feel so much better now that all OUR questions have been answered. I think (imho) that all this talk will benefit orginizations that are on our side(yes I am on your side :tu:). I feel that many answers to questions have now been clarified. Bottom Line, orginizations such as Libba & MSA ARE doing right by us all. Keep up the good work. >>>Maybe i'll rejoin
.>>>>>>>>>>>>mARTIN
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Guys, thanks for positive feedback. I just want to add that the letters from the LIBBA Board members above reflect just a small percentage of the Organization's contribution. Some others that stand out in my mind are;

1. Operation Christmas Tree- Discarded trees were dropped at specified town locations and carted to the beach by members and stacked at the dune line in the dead of winter. The trees would quickly catch the blowing sand and reestablish the primary dune line
2. Winter Storm assistance- LIBBA members provided 4x4 assistance to local hospitals during severe winter storms by picking up key medical personal who otherwise might not be able get to the hospital in such conditions.
3. Flight 800- beach search along Smith Point and FINS
4. Beach Driving Classes

I'm sure I'm forgetting some but I think you get the point.


Thanks again, Paul
 

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Thanks for the great info Paul, nice work!


LIBBA also has a scholarship fund it awards each year to students looking to study in the marine biology field.


Chris Papparo Aquarist at the Riverhead Aquarium, is a LIBBA Director and the first recepient of the scholarship award. ;)
 

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Since we redirected the LIBBA questions to this thread this is what I posted about LIBBA a couple of days ago. Thanks for all this good info Paul!
This just helps all of us have more information about an excellent organization.

I'm just beginning to learn more about what LIBBA does and I'm sure there is still a lot I don't know. For instance, right now down in North Carolina the NC Beach Buggy Association along with many other groups are going to do all they can to help defeat a lawsuit that has been filed to eliminate beach access to a large part the Cape Hatteras National Seashore. Hopefully, that lawsuit will be defeated because if not, it would not be a stretch to see groups beginning to file lawsuits in our neck of the woods. That's just one example of what groups like the NCBBA and LIBBA are concerned with and fighting against. We can't take beach access for granted. LIBBA is responsible for the air pump units we have at Demo and I believe in other locations as well. LIBBA is involved with conservation efforts, grass plantings, beach clean-ups, educating others about off-road vehicle ethics, helping support the Sport Fishing Education Center, and Operation Holiday Spirit - which is a toy and food drive for less fortunate children. I'm sure there is plenty more that others could mention here. LIBBA also helps provide scholarship awards to marine biology students who as Larry Carlucci says, will be future marine specialists in DEC, NMFS, NOAA and others. They will be the folks who will manage the future fish stocks and make decisions that will drirectly affect us, the recreational angler. The bottom line is that LIBBA is an organization involved in activities that impact us as surf anglers.
 
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