I would have to agree with Stormfront. I have noticed that with Weakfishing, one day they turn on at the turn of the outgoing, the next time out it can be the exact opposite tide and stage. In the Great south Bay, the few times I have fished there, we used the bass assasin lures, in white, or pink. It seems on those trips, working the lure on the strong side of the drift helped, and a staggered jerking of the rod and a slow retrieve got the lures moving the best. In Jamaica bay the 3x3 bait rigs were definitely the way to go. In the five years I had my boat over there, I loved fishing around dusk, when the tide was right.