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Mike, I'd make a little photoshop of you with devil's horns on your head but you'de delete it anyway..so why bother?
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Since some people seem to be in an instigating mood, how about we start a thread where all PAST moderators can talk about the CURRENT crop of moderators?
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We can have a seperate thread for each to keep track of who the "most loathed moderator" is.
Now wouldn't that one be fun boys and girls?............
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UNCENSORED!!!!
We can have a seperate thread for each to keep track of who the "most loathed moderator" is.
Now wouldn't that one be fun boys and girls?............
hovbuild wrote:
I just love the price increase on some services and goods I buy so a bunch of socialist's can get extra nap time on the job! Even better when some slouch is caught napping and the union sends a "moderator" to his unemployment hearing.
Flame suit on!
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Yep that's what it's all about.
I just love the price increase on some services and goods I buy so a bunch of socialist's can get extra nap time on the job! Even better when some slouch is caught napping and the union sends a "moderator" to his unemployment hearing.
Flame suit on!
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For all you boys and girls who want to bash unions, I want you to go to the Public library and read up on the history of unions and what they have done for workers in this country. Then go down to your neighborhood WALMART and ask a worker how much they make and what benefits they have.
Then, in your spare time between chapters, you can post about how bad unions are.......
Disclaimer: I've been a UUP member for 18 years.
Then, in your spare time between chapters, you can post about how bad unions are.......
Disclaimer: I've been a UUP member for 18 years.
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Over the course of this nations history Unions have served a great benefit to many people. Also keep in mind that they were most important before you had allot of the labor laws that are on the books today that encompass many of the rules that previously were union based.
As for Wallmart, you're right, they are not a union based organization. They are also a great benefit to millions of americans who are able to purchase things there at a greatly reduced prices, thereby saving themselves money. If they were to unionize, and increase their prices accordingly, do you think people would buy as much there as they are able to now? Would that be good for the general public and the economy, or just the members of the union?
Look at the UAW situation today. Great Union right? Perhaps, but now the big three have laid off tens of thousands of workers yet still continue to lose money. Part of that is product related, but part of it is because companies like GM have to make $1,500 on every vehicle sold just to cover the costs of benefits to it's workers.
I work for a RE developer and we build hi-rise in Manhattan. All of our work is done by the Unions and we want it that way, so long as they don't get so out of control that it no longer makes sense. As hard as some of the trades work, there are still fluff-jobs in the system that get a little crazy. That is one of the reasons that some developers have gone non-union. If you are going to build and be driven nuts, you may as well make more money in the process.
Unions have there place, certainly not what they used to be, but until they stop protecting the slugs who may be among their members, they will be hard-pressed to overcome the stagma many of them have.
As for Wallmart, you're right, they are not a union based organization. They are also a great benefit to millions of americans who are able to purchase things there at a greatly reduced prices, thereby saving themselves money. If they were to unionize, and increase their prices accordingly, do you think people would buy as much there as they are able to now? Would that be good for the general public and the economy, or just the members of the union?
Look at the UAW situation today. Great Union right? Perhaps, but now the big three have laid off tens of thousands of workers yet still continue to lose money. Part of that is product related, but part of it is because companies like GM have to make $1,500 on every vehicle sold just to cover the costs of benefits to it's workers.
I work for a RE developer and we build hi-rise in Manhattan. All of our work is done by the Unions and we want it that way, so long as they don't get so out of control that it no longer makes sense. As hard as some of the trades work, there are still fluff-jobs in the system that get a little crazy. That is one of the reasons that some developers have gone non-union. If you are going to build and be driven nuts, you may as well make more money in the process.
Unions have there place, certainly not what they used to be, but until they stop protecting the slugs who may be among their members, they will be hard-pressed to overcome the stagma many of them have.
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MisterX wrote:
For all you boys and girls who want to bash unions, I want you to go to the Public library and read up on the history of unions and what they have done for workers in this country. Then go down to your neighborhood WALMART and ask a worker how much they make and what benefits they have.
Then, in your spare time between chapters, you can post about how bad unions are.......
Disclaimer: I've been a UUP member for 18 years.
Yup, you are right, in History they served a purpose ! Now their only function is to send all manufacturing jobs overseas ! Key word there is HISTORY !
For all you boys and girls who want to bash unions, I want you to go to the Public library and read up on the history of unions and what they have done for workers in this country. Then go down to your neighborhood WALMART and ask a worker how much they make and what benefits they have.
Then, in your spare time between chapters, you can post about how bad unions are.......
Disclaimer: I've been a UUP member for 18 years.
Yup, you are right, in History they served a purpose ! Now their only function is to send all manufacturing jobs overseas ! Key word there is HISTORY !
Scott1280 wrote:
Over the course of this nations history Unions have served a great benefit to many people. Also keep in mind that they were most important before you had allot of the labor laws that are on the books today that encompass many of the rules that previously were union based.
As for Wallmart, you're right, they are not a union based organization. They are also a great benefit to millions of americans who are able to purchase things there at a greatly reduced prices, thereby saving themselves money. If they were to unionize, and increase their prices accordingly, do you think people would buy as much there as they are able to now? Would that be good for the general public and the economy, or just the members of the union?
Look at the UAW situation today. Great Union right? Perhaps, but now the big three have laid off tens of thousands of workers yet still continue to lose money. Part of that is product related, but part of it is because companies like GM have to make $1,500 on every vehicle sold just to cover the costs of benefits to it's workers.
I work for a RE developer and we build hi-rise in Manhattan. All of our work is done by the Unions and we want it that way, so long as they don't get so out of control that it no longer makes sense. As hard as some of the trades work, there are still fluff-jobs in the system that get a little crazy. That is one of the reasons that some developers have gone non-union. If you are going to build and be driven nuts, you may as well make more money in the process.
Unions have there place, certainly not what they used to be, but until they stop protecting the slugs who may be among their members, they will be hard-pressed to overcome the stagma many of them have.
As a 20 year CWA member I can say that the "Slugs" are the minority.
I have to think that the small business owner that pays their employees 6.00/Hr. with hardly any vaction of sick time or medical benefits is the "SLUG"
No?
And "Fluff Jobs" I don't know about other locals. But in mine they are all but nonexistent.
Over the course of this nations history Unions have served a great benefit to many people. Also keep in mind that they were most important before you had allot of the labor laws that are on the books today that encompass many of the rules that previously were union based.
As for Wallmart, you're right, they are not a union based organization. They are also a great benefit to millions of americans who are able to purchase things there at a greatly reduced prices, thereby saving themselves money. If they were to unionize, and increase their prices accordingly, do you think people would buy as much there as they are able to now? Would that be good for the general public and the economy, or just the members of the union?
Look at the UAW situation today. Great Union right? Perhaps, but now the big three have laid off tens of thousands of workers yet still continue to lose money. Part of that is product related, but part of it is because companies like GM have to make $1,500 on every vehicle sold just to cover the costs of benefits to it's workers.
I work for a RE developer and we build hi-rise in Manhattan. All of our work is done by the Unions and we want it that way, so long as they don't get so out of control that it no longer makes sense. As hard as some of the trades work, there are still fluff-jobs in the system that get a little crazy. That is one of the reasons that some developers have gone non-union. If you are going to build and be driven nuts, you may as well make more money in the process.
Unions have there place, certainly not what they used to be, but until they stop protecting the slugs who may be among their members, they will be hard-pressed to overcome the stagma many of them have.
As a 20 year CWA member I can say that the "Slugs" are the minority.
I have to think that the small business owner that pays their employees 6.00/Hr. with hardly any vaction of sick time or medical benefits is the "SLUG"
No?
And "Fluff Jobs" I don't know about other locals. But in mine they are all but nonexistent.
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Striper77 wrote:
MisterX wrote:
For all you boys and girls who want to bash unions, I want you to go to the Public library and read up on the history of unions and what they have done for workers in this country. Then go down to your neighborhood WALMART and ask a worker how much they make and what benefits they have.
Then, in your spare time between chapters, you can post about how bad unions are.......
Disclaimer: I've been a UUP member for 18 years.
Yup, you are right, in History they served a purpose ! Now their only function is to send all manufacturing jobs overseas ! Key word there is HISTORY !
The unions are outsourcing work????
MisterX wrote:
For all you boys and girls who want to bash unions, I want you to go to the Public library and read up on the history of unions and what they have done for workers in this country. Then go down to your neighborhood WALMART and ask a worker how much they make and what benefits they have.
Then, in your spare time between chapters, you can post about how bad unions are.......
Disclaimer: I've been a UUP member for 18 years.
Yup, you are right, in History they served a purpose ! Now their only function is to send all manufacturing jobs overseas ! Key word there is HISTORY !
The unions are outsourcing work????
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