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No one likes war. War is a horrific affair, bloody and expensive. Sending our men and women into battle to perhaps die or be maimed is an unconscionable thought.

Yet some wars need to be waged, and someone needs to lead. The citizenry and Congress are often ambivalent or largely opposed to any given war. It's up to our leader to convince them. That's why we call the leader "Commander in Chief."

George W.'s war was no different. There was lots of resistance to it. Many in Congress were vehemently against the idea. The Commander in Chief had to lobby for legislative approval.

Along with supporters, George W. used the force of his convictions, the power of his title and every ounce of moral persuasion he could muster to rally support. He had to assure Congress and the public that the war was morally justified, winnable and affordable. Congress eventually came around and voted overwhelmingly to wage war.

George W. then lobbied foreign governments for support. But in the end, only one European nation helped us. The rest of the world sat on its hands and watched.

After a few quick victories, things started to go bad. There were many dark days when all the news was discouraging. Casualties began to mount. It became obvious that our forces were too small. Congress began to drag its feet about funding the effort.

Many who had voted to support the war just a few years earlier were beginning to speak against it and accuse the Commander in Chief of misleading them. Many critics began to call him incompetent, an idiot and even a liar. Journalists joined the negative chorus with a vengeance.

As the war entered its fourth year, the public began to grow weary of the conflict and the casualties. George W.'s popularity plummeted. Yet through it all, he stood firm, supporting the troops and endorsing the struggle.

Without his unwavering support, the war would have surely ended, then and there, in overwhelming and total defeat.

At this darkest of times, he began to make some changes. More troops were added and trained. Some advisers were shuffled, and new generals installed.

Then, unexpectedly and gradually, things began to improve. Now it was the enemy that appeared to be growing weary of the lengthy conflict and losing support. Victories began to come, and hope returned.

Many critics in Congress and the press said the improvements were just George W.'s good luck. The progress, they said, would be temporary. He knew, however, that in warfare good fortune counts.

Then, in the unlikeliest of circumstances and perhaps the most historic example of military luck, the enemy blundered and was resoundingly defeated. After six long years of war, the Commander in Chief basked in a most hard-fought victory.

So on that historic day, Oct. 19, 1781, in a place called Yorktown, a satisfied George Washington sat upon his beautiful white horse and accepted the surrender of Lord Cornwallis, effectively ending the Revolutionary War.
 

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Interesting Mike.. fighting for and on in one's homeland is mjuch different than sending our kids to fight for oil half way across the world however are two different wars in my opinion..
Good point,they are different wars. In this one we are fighting to keep our citizens safe from terrorisim. In that one they didn't want to pay taxes.
 

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Interesting Mike.. fighting for and on in one's homeland is mjuch different than sending our kids to fight for oil half way across the world however are two different wars in my opinion..
Good point,they are different wars. In this one we are fighting to keep our citizens safe from terrorisim. In that one they didn't want to pay taxes.

Well let's talk about the two wars..

Yes Afghanistan I agree with war on terror go into Pakistan too


Iraq, well that was just a big multi trillion dollar mistake...
 

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likeitreallyis wrote:
Interesting Mike.. fighting for and on in one's homeland is mjuch different than sending our kids to fight for oil half way across the world however are two different wars in my opinion..
Good point,they are different wars. In this one we are fighting to keep our citizens safe from terrorisim. In that one they didn't want to pay taxes.

Well let's talk about the two wars..

Yes Afghanistan I agree with war on terror go into Pakistan too


Iraq, well that was just a big multi trillion dollar mistake...

I agree with that.

Afghanistan: yes

Iraq: nope

But keep supporting the military regardless of whether we believe it's right or wrong.
 

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same reasoning.. they are developing WMD.. we have better WMD.. ;)

But they seem to be much more willing to use any WMDs they might have. What would it take for you to support a war against Iran? Mushroom clouds over which U.S. cities?
 

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be last thing they ever did Mike...it is destiny.. the meek will inherit the earth and enjoy peace as far into the future as can be seen..

But going after every country because of paranoid presidents will only accelerate the process..

It will happen, just a matter of when.. don't you think they have germ colonies that can do the same thing? Why haven't they used them?



 

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be last thing they ever did Mike...it is destiny.. the meek will inherit the earth and enjoy peace as far into the future as can be seen..

Have you ever even looked at a history book? The meek have never governed themselves, they have always been dominated by the strong aggressive nations. You can go back as far in time as you like and it has always been so.

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It will happen, just a matter of when.. don't you think they have germ colonies that can do the same thing? Why haven't they used them?

You really think that Iran has biological weapons that they can use? Are you saying that its just a matter of time until the U.S. suffers a nuclear attack and we should just sit back and wait for it to happen??
 

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Yes Afghanistan I agree with war on terror go into Pakistan too


Yeah Bob!
Let's go trapsing around inside a Muslim dominated country with a fragile political atmosphere that we know has nuclear weapons!!
Great idea!!!
That would really do wonders for us!!:rolleyes: Boy, I wish you were the President!!
All would be sooooooo much better off!:rolleyes:
 
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