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Ok I know there is at least 2 members who like to talk politic's.


So how does this sound :rolleyes: this thread will be dedicated to Politic's only..

Now dont take this the wrong way all the other threads i get a kick out of by just reading all 1,000 responces by a certain few members
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I would be curious to see see how a big of a thread you guys could make if you kept all your political debates in 1 thread..........

Sound silly :rolleyes: if so let me know and ill whack this thread
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If not lets see what you guys got maybe you can pass thre NHBT in pages/views/reply's by XMAS
 

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he's fishing like I should be lol.. don't worry he'll be here full of pie charts and graphs explaining how Mcain is right NAFTA is great, or he'll blame Clinton (a closet republican) for it..



 

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he's fishing like I should be lol.. don't worry he'll be here full of pie charts and graphs explaining how Mcain is right NAFTA is great, or he'll blame Clinton (a closet republican) for it..

Bill Clinton a closet Republican? That's a good one.
 

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JACKSONVILLE, Florida (CNN) ? Barack Obama told supporters that Republicans will ?try to make you afraid of me? in remarks he made Friday at a Florida fundraiser.

"The choice is clear. Most of all we can choose between hope and fear. It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy.

?We know what kind of campaign they?re going to run,? said the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee. ?They?re going to try to make you afraid. They?re going to try to make you afraid of me. ?He?s young and inexperienced and he?s got a funny name. And did I mention he?s black??



 

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cany...my friend (we'll just call him Bob) needs a new t-shirt. Seems his old one got dirty when he fell on a jetty. He claims that Coors was not involved but...regardless...he needs a new shirt. Do you like this one Glenn?:
 

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JACKSONVILLE, Florida (CNN) ? Barack Obama told supporters that Republicans will ?try to make you afraid of me? in remarks he made Friday at a Florida fundraiser.

"The choice is clear. Most of all we can choose between hope and fear. It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy.

?We know what kind of campaign they?re going to run,? said the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee. ?They?re going to try to make you afraid. They?re going to try to make you afraid of me. ?He?s young and inexperienced and he?s got a funny name. And did I mention he?s black??

Afraid? Nice spin.
If fear is what you experience when confronted with the facts about this man, it is not because of the GOP, it is because they are actually major reasons for concern.

By putting it out there himself he is attempting to divert attention away from his shortcomings, avert those fears, and blame the GOP for creating it. He IS young and inexperienced, that is a fact.
If the GOP states that, it is not fear mongering it is an accurate representation of the FACTS. If that scares you then maybe you should not vote for him. :confused:
He is even playing the race card, again, and that is just not wright.
 

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don't worry Crabby Scott will be here soon enough


Like that one Freddy?


Once he got a whiff of all that money they turn republican ;)

Let's not confuse good ole fashioned greed and hypocrisy, with being a Republican shall we.
 

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Saudis announce today they are increasing production. No let's test the theory that oil is a fairly traded commidity and the price will now come down because they are going to panic and sell


It won't.
 

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(CNN) -- As he tries to woo independent voters, Sen. John McCain is relying on his image as a maverick, making it clear he's no President Bush.


Sen. John McCain wants an end to the federal ban on offshore drilling, a reversal from his 2000 campaign.

But the timing of Bush's support for offshore oil drilling this week may spell trouble for McCain's efforts to distance himself from the embattled White House.

The president on Wednesday urged Democratic leaders in Congress to lift the ban on offshore drilling -- just as McCain has been making his own energy pitch for the same.

"The next president must be willing to break with the energy policies, not just of the current administration, but the administrations that preceded it, and lead a great national campaign to achieve energy security for America," McCain said Wednesday in Springfield, Missouri. Map: See where drilling is and isn't allowed »

The senator from Arizona outlined an energy plan that would include lifting the ban on offshore drilling for oil, a reversal of his position during his 2000 campaign.

His speech followed an address Tuesday in Houston, Texas, in which he also pushed offshore drilling.

McCain and the president appear to be marching in lockstep on how to deal with $4 a gallon gas. They are demanding Democrats end the federal ban on offshore drilling, saying it could lead to a drop in oil prices given the expectation of increased supply. Watch a McCain adviser describe the proposal »

"I know the Democratic leaders have opposed some of these policies in the past," Bush said. "Now that their opposition has helped drive gas prices to record levels, I ask them to reconsider their positions."

But Sen. Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, argues that offshore drilling will not help lower gas prices in the short term. Watch an Obama supporter blast McCain's oil policy »

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"At best, you're looking at five years or more down the road. And even the most optimistic assumptions indicate that offshore drilling might reduce the overall world price of oil by a few cents," Obama has said.

Obama's solution, a push for plug-in hybrid cars and other alternatives to oil, will not give consumers short-term relief either.

Congressional Democrats are determined to block the president's push for offshore drilling, prohibited by a 1981 law and a 1990 executive order.

"When Congress lifts the legislative ban, I will lift the executive prohibition," Bush said. Watch Bush make a case for new drilling »

The issue also makes for a fascinating family drama since the president's father, President George H.W. Bush, signed the order banning offshore drilling, while his brother Jeb more recently opposed such drilling when he was governor of Florida.

Florida's current governor, Charlie Crist, has been an opponent of offshore drilling, but he now has an open mind about it since McCain's embrace. Crist's name has come up as a possible vice presidential running mate on the GOP ticket.

"It's the last thing in the world I'd like to do, but I also understand what people are paying at the pump, and I understand the drag it is on our economy," Crist told the St. Petersburg Times this week. "Something has to be done in a responsible, pragmatic way."

In the long run, however, the fact that Bush has embraced this position on offshore oil drilling as well may make it more difficult for McCain to portray himself as an independent.

McCain's stance also may hurt him in California, a state with 55 electoral votes.


The proposal could put McCain at odds with environmentalists who say it is incongruous with his plans to combat global warning. California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a McCain ally, also opposes offshore drilling.

Schwarzenegger released a statement Wednesday saying he still does not believe it makes sense to have such drilling off the California coast



 

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Well it looks like likeitreallyis is the only one trying to keep this thread on trackc
Thanks Bob
 
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