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In the cool weather I wear a farmer john style wet suit as a base layer. I then wear waterproof pants and various layers on top covered with a good rain jacket. I really like to wear the high "muck" boots (edgewater) on my feet. This all keeps me dry and warm and if I do go over the wet suit is a big plus - do not forget a good PFD.
In the cool weather I wear a farmer john style wet suit as a base layer. I then wear waterproof pants and various layers on top covered with a good rain jacket. I really like to wear the high "muck" boots (edgewater) on my feet. This all keeps me dry and warm and if I do go over the wet suit is a big plus - do not forget a good PFD.
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If you go with the wetsuit you have to wear some sort of under garmet to deal with the wind.If you take a dip then get back on the yak the wind will go right through the wetsuit.Best bet is a dry suit then wader/drytop combo,wetsuit is last this time of year.I wear a wetsuit later on in the spring but with mysterio undergarment under it.
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You don't ever want to wear boot waders in a kayak. This time of year stockingfoot waders with booties or wading boots, a belt and dry top will work. More expensive but the best solution is a dry suit. As the water warmes a wetsuit with splashtop.
Remember cool water temperatures will quickly lower your body temperature (hypothermia). Before you jump into fishing with your kayak practice self rescue/reentry in a controlled enviornment. Know how to do this and practice.
You don't ever want to wear boot waders in a kayak. This time of year stockingfoot waders with booties or wading boots, a belt and dry top will work. More expensive but the best solution is a dry suit. As the water warmes a wetsuit with splashtop.
Remember cool water temperatures will quickly lower your body temperature (hypothermia). Before you jump into fishing with your kayak practice self rescue/reentry in a controlled enviornment. Know how to do this and practice.
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I have gotten by with sandals over my stocking foot waders, with a dry top or a windbreaker cinched down over the waders by a pistol belt, on which I have a knife and pliers. I mostly kayak in the summer, and then its just sandals, swimsuit and a sleeveless t.
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i'm going to try the stocking foot waders with a dry top two belts[one under the top/one over??]i have a extrasport osprey[pfd]i'm going to dump it on perpose down by my house one min. away hope it works
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thanks agian i appreciate all the help.
p.s. captjc i tryed to get to your shop sunday the road was flooded out worse then i have ever seen over there.
i'm going to try the stocking foot waders with a dry top two belts[one under the top/one over??]i have a extrasport osprey[pfd]i'm going to dump it on perpose down by my house one min. away hope it works
thanks agian i appreciate all the help.
p.s. captjc i tryed to get to your shop sunday the road was flooded out worse then i have ever seen over there.
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In addition to Dune Rd. we will be opening another location 23 River Rd. Sayville in a few weeks. On the Brown's River.
browns river i fished it a lot when i was a kid you can go up north to lotus lake from browns river,great little sweat water lake.
good luck with the new store
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In addition to Dune Rd. we will be opening another location 23 River Rd. Sayville in a few weeks. On the Brown's River.
browns river i fished it a lot when i was a kid you can go up north to lotus lake from browns river,great little sweat water lake.
good luck with the new store
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i'm going to try the stocking foot waders with a dry top two belts[one under the top/one over?? wrote:
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Both belts go around the inner tunnel to stop water from entering from underneath.
if you are thinking about waders on a kayak - try jumping in the deep end of a pool first wrote:
Here's a link to a video of Jim sammons doing just that.
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Both belts go around the inner tunnel to stop water from entering from underneath.
if you are thinking about waders on a kayak - try jumping in the deep end of a pool first wrote:
Here's a link to a video of Jim sammons doing just that.
thanks kayakerstan
that clears that up,waders video i think your self rescue video was just as helpful thanks again.
This post edited by rac37 06:14 AM 05/10/2008
that clears that up,waders video i think your self rescue video was just as helpful thanks again.
This post edited by rac37 06:14 AM 05/10/2008
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thanks kayakerstan
that clears that up,waders video i think your self rescue video was just as helpful thanks again.
Your very welcome!!!
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Remember to always test out your dry clothes before going out on the kayak.
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I will be working on a much better self rescue video with close ups and different points of view. I will be working on some more informative videos such as how to put on wader/dry top combo and the correct way to wear a PFD. When I'm finished I will post them as needed.
thanks kayakerstan
that clears that up,waders video i think your self rescue video was just as helpful thanks again.
Your very welcome!!!
Remember to always test out your dry clothes before going out on the kayak.
I will be working on a much better self rescue video with close ups and different points of view. I will be working on some more informative videos such as how to put on wader/dry top combo and the correct way to wear a PFD. When I'm finished I will post them as needed.
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saltedcod wrote:
if you are thinking about waders on a kayak - try jumping in the deep end of a pool first
the wetsuit idea is a much better idea
I've done just this... with neoprene chest waders. You will float. This was part of a State approved water safety course. The excercise was done just to prove the myth that if they fill up with water you'll sink.... NOT TRUE!
A wetsuit is better, but Waders will still work. As always, common sense is always best for the conditions...
if you are thinking about waders on a kayak - try jumping in the deep end of a pool first
the wetsuit idea is a much better idea
I've done just this... with neoprene chest waders. You will float. This was part of a State approved water safety course. The excercise was done just to prove the myth that if they fill up with water you'll sink.... NOT TRUE!
A wetsuit is better, but Waders will still work. As always, common sense is always best for the conditions...
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I'm not familiar with stocking foot waders. I just bought a new pair of Cabellas on ebay last night. My question would be what kind of shoe to wear with them if any and do you have to get a shoe that is much bigger than your size to fit the stockingfoot wader? I saw where they were saying not to wear neopreme boot waders but I don't see what the difference would be if you have to wear boots with the stocking foot waders. Also would a paddle top with the neopreme wrist and neck bands with a wader belt on the bottom work pretty much like a dry top? Thanks
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The problem with some booted waders is that the boot part can hold air and water. If the wader is loose fitting or if you are not wearing a belt or your belt comes off the air can be pushed to the boot and cause more flotation at the feet than at the chest. If water gets in there it has no where to go and the weight of the water in the wader will make it impossible to reenter your kayak. Waders without boots attached can allow for both the air and water to exit at the feet and are much safer.
You have many choices of what to wear with stockingfoot waders.
Wading boots, water sneakers that drain and neoprene booties are a few.
The problem with some booted waders is that the boot part can hold air and water. If the wader is loose fitting or if you are not wearing a belt or your belt comes off the air can be pushed to the boot and cause more flotation at the feet than at the chest. If water gets in there it has no where to go and the weight of the water in the wader will make it impossible to reenter your kayak. Waders without boots attached can allow for both the air and water to exit at the feet and are much safer.
You have many choices of what to wear with stockingfoot waders.
Wading boots, water sneakers that drain and neoprene booties are a few.
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A paddle top with neoprene at the sleeve and neck is definitely not the same as a drytop. A genuine drytop has latex gaskets on the sleeve and neck. It's essentially watertight. If you're in the water the neoprene gasketed splash top will quickly fill with water and will then also permit some water intrusion into waders even if they are belted. Whatever clothing you've got on under the waders will provide a pathway for the water to enter. Maybe just a trickle, maybe a lot more. Once it's in there how will you get it out even if you manage to get back into the boat??
There are also semi dry tops that typically have neoprene at the neck and latex at the wrists. While significantly better they still have issues with water intrusion at the neck area.
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A paddle top with neoprene at the sleeve and neck is definitely not the same as a drytop. A genuine drytop has latex gaskets on the sleeve and neck. It's essentially watertight. If you're in the water the neoprene gasketed splash top will quickly fill with water and will then also permit some water intrusion into waders even if they are belted. Whatever clothing you've got on under the waders will provide a pathway for the water to enter. Maybe just a trickle, maybe a lot more. Once it's in there how will you get it out even if you manage to get back into the boat??
There are also semi dry tops that typically have neoprene at the neck and latex at the wrists. While significantly better they still have issues with water intrusion at the neck area.
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My question would be what kind of shoe to wear with them if any and do you have to get a shoe that is much bigger than your size to fit the stockingfoot wader?
Water shoes/sneakers, neoprene wading booties or Korker wading shoes. As for size? If the stockingfoot fits snug around your foot go up 1 shoe size otherwise if the stockingfoot is very loose around the foot go up 2 shoe sizes.
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Also would a paddle top with the neopreme wrist and neck bands with a wader belt on the bottom work pretty much like a dry top?
No, it will always leak a little from the neck or wrists if you were to fall in. Most kayakers I see wearing a paddle top or a semi dry top don't cinch the neoprene neck down as tight as they should. Most kayakers like having the neck loose which is a no no. IMHO get a good quality dry top you'll be happy you did.
Catch plenty of fish, have lots of fun and always think safety first.
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This post edited by KayakerStan 12:08 AM 05/15/2008
My question would be what kind of shoe to wear with them if any and do you have to get a shoe that is much bigger than your size to fit the stockingfoot wader?
Water shoes/sneakers, neoprene wading booties or Korker wading shoes. As for size? If the stockingfoot fits snug around your foot go up 1 shoe size otherwise if the stockingfoot is very loose around the foot go up 2 shoe sizes.
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Also would a paddle top with the neopreme wrist and neck bands with a wader belt on the bottom work pretty much like a dry top?
No, it will always leak a little from the neck or wrists if you were to fall in. Most kayakers I see wearing a paddle top or a semi dry top don't cinch the neoprene neck down as tight as they should. Most kayakers like having the neck loose which is a no no. IMHO get a good quality dry top you'll be happy you did.
Catch plenty of fish, have lots of fun and always think safety first.
This post edited by KayakerStan 12:08 AM 05/15/2008
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