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Bob,
If I were chunking out at the edge, I wouldn't put a 30-50 pound outfit anywhere near the water.
IMHO thats much too light. Anything like a decent fish you're going to have to drop off the ball in the middle of the night or risk getting spooled.
(This post edited by MakoMike on 02/08/2003)
If I were chunking out at the edge, I wouldn't put a 30-50 pound outfit anywhere near the water.
IMHO thats much too light. Anything like a decent fish you're going to have to drop off the ball in the middle of the night or risk getting spooled.
(This post edited by MakoMike on 02/08/2003)
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Lets Talk.........Getting Spooled
Bab, Mike,
Did any of you guys ever hook a Manta Ray at night. It is unreal. I think a lot of times when anglers get spool in the night that some of them are rays.
We fought one for hours one night, thinking it was the Mother of all Swordfish! The angler stayed with it until the end, about 2 hours. It was quite a let down.
We have had them several times after that. I think the way you can tell it is a ray, based on my observations is this. On all the good tunas, if you are watching your tips. The tip will take a little bounce and then off to the races. With the ray the rod just doubles over like it was attached to the bumper of a car, amazing. Sorry back to the question.
It is suppost to be fun, so the tackle must be comfortable. I like the 50 SW with 80 test, the 30 Tiagra,30 is excellent with 80 Jinki. If you got the
strength the 70VS or 50/80LRS with 100 pound test. The 50VS is also excellent and is my favorite new reel.
If you are looking to buy just a personnel rod for yourself, take a good look at Sea Isle's Stand up Rods. The are just the best.
On more comment about getting off the ball in the night in the Canyon.
What really works great is that after you drop your hook or what ever trick you use. add about 300' of polypropalene line, this way when the fish makes that death run to the bow you have some time to turn him before he gets into the ground gear.
I think we need a post on this topic Anchoring in the deep!
(This post edited by captainlarry84 on 02/08/2003)
Bab, Mike,
Did any of you guys ever hook a Manta Ray at night. It is unreal. I think a lot of times when anglers get spool in the night that some of them are rays.
We fought one for hours one night, thinking it was the Mother of all Swordfish! The angler stayed with it until the end, about 2 hours. It was quite a let down.
We have had them several times after that. I think the way you can tell it is a ray, based on my observations is this. On all the good tunas, if you are watching your tips. The tip will take a little bounce and then off to the races. With the ray the rod just doubles over like it was attached to the bumper of a car, amazing. Sorry back to the question.
It is suppost to be fun, so the tackle must be comfortable. I like the 50 SW with 80 test, the 30 Tiagra,30 is excellent with 80 Jinki. If you got the
strength the 70VS or 50/80LRS with 100 pound test. The 50VS is also excellent and is my favorite new reel.
If you are looking to buy just a personnel rod for yourself, take a good look at Sea Isle's Stand up Rods. The are just the best.
On more comment about getting off the ball in the night in the Canyon.
What really works great is that after you drop your hook or what ever trick you use. add about 300' of polypropalene line, this way when the fish makes that death run to the bow you have some time to turn him before he gets into the ground gear.
I think we need a post on this topic Anchoring in the deep!
(This post edited by captainlarry84 on 02/08/2003)
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Relax
Bab,
They are you got the right stuff, remember it is sport fishing. Stand up 80s are very tuff unless you put them in a rod holder, and I refuse to do that! You could go a little heavier as I stated earlier with a 70VS or LRS 50/80 both of these reels are still lighter than the 80s which are a bear for the Chair!
Bab,
They are you got the right stuff, remember it is sport fishing. Stand up 80s are very tuff unless you put them in a rod holder, and I refuse to do that! You could go a little heavier as I stated earlier with a 70VS or LRS 50/80 both of these reels are still lighter than the 80s which are a bear for the Chair!
Tuna Sticks
I have settled on a set of 50TW's and a couple 30TW,s that work great for me. The last few years I've tried some Shimano 50 LRS reels that are pretty good. They are much lighter to handle while chunking. This keeps you from getting lazy while working the baits. My only complaint would be the clicker location. We have gone the gambit of tackle. 80's on up. I have only been spooled once and it was in the deep in Hatteras. (Probably a big blue or Mako cause he ate a 20lb tuna at the boat).With a little coordination a 50 should be fine if your boat and captain has the ability to maneuver in an emergency situation.
I have settled on a set of 50TW's and a couple 30TW,s that work great for me. The last few years I've tried some Shimano 50 LRS reels that are pretty good. They are much lighter to handle while chunking. This keeps you from getting lazy while working the baits. My only complaint would be the clicker location. We have gone the gambit of tackle. 80's on up. I have only been spooled once and it was in the deep in Hatteras. (Probably a big blue or Mako cause he ate a 20lb tuna at the boat).With a little coordination a 50 should be fine if your boat and captain has the ability to maneuver in an emergency situation.
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No I've never, knowingly, hooked a manta ray. But I have hooked marlin and big bigeye, at night, hanging on the ball. 20 lbs of drag ain't gonna stop one of these fish. OTOH nothing is gonna stop a bigeye until he reaches the bottom. On my boat we fish 80Ws spooled with 100 for chinking. Even the ladies can handle the outfits with no problems. I'd like to go to blueprinted 50SWs spooled with 130 braid with a top shot of 150 flouro, so I'm saving my pennies. I really dislike coming off the ball in the middle of the night. Fighting the fish in among the pots, that you can't see, except on the radar, just give me the willies. Even though I've done it many times already. Then,its a PITA to have to work your way through the minefield out into the deep so you can drift for the rest of the night, without having to worry about running into some gear. I much prefer heavier tackle to avoid doing that, of course sometimes there's no way to avoid it no matter how heavy the tackle is.
No I've never, knowingly, hooked a manta ray. But I have hooked marlin and big bigeye, at night, hanging on the ball. 20 lbs of drag ain't gonna stop one of these fish. OTOH nothing is gonna stop a bigeye until he reaches the bottom. On my boat we fish 80Ws spooled with 100 for chinking. Even the ladies can handle the outfits with no problems. I'd like to go to blueprinted 50SWs spooled with 130 braid with a top shot of 150 flouro, so I'm saving my pennies. I really dislike coming off the ball in the middle of the night. Fighting the fish in among the pots, that you can't see, except on the radar, just give me the willies. Even though I've done it many times already. Then,its a PITA to have to work your way through the minefield out into the deep so you can drift for the rest of the night, without having to worry about running into some gear. I much prefer heavier tackle to avoid doing that, of course sometimes there's no way to avoid it no matter how heavy the tackle is.
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