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Hi,

There is a new HMS Permit you need to fish for sharks (Rec Permit). You can only buy one permit. If you get the general permit, can you fish for sharks rec and keep sharks? Most fishermen north of the cape get the General permit with hopes of getting a Giant BF. To say now they can't go sharking on a closed tuna day would really be a problem. Anyone have any answers on this?

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HMS ANGLING (recreational)
All private vessel owners/operators recreationally fishing for and/or retaining regulated Atlantic Highly Migratory Species (Atlantic tunas, sharks, swordfish and billfish) for personal use in the Atlantic Ocean, including the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean Sea, must obtain an Atlantic Highly Migratory Species (HMS) Angling permit. This permit has replaced the Atlantic Tunas Angling permit, and incorporates those vessels targeting other regulated HMS. Similar to Atlantic Tunas permits, 2003 Atlantic HMS Angling permits cost $22.00 and will be valid from the date of issuance through May 31, 2004.


HMS CHARTER/HEADBOAT (commercial)
Any vessel that carries passengers for hire to fish for Atlantic Highly Migratory Species (tunas, swordfish, sharks, and billfish - HMS) must obtain a permit in the Charter/Headboat category. With regards to bluefin tuna, Anglers aboard vessels permitted in this category may collectively fish under either the daily Angling or General category limit as applicable on that day. The size category of the first bluefin tuna retained or possessed will determine the fishing category of all persons aboard the vessel for that day, and the applicable retention limits. Anglers aboard Charter/Headboat vessels may fish only under the Angling category rules on General category restricted-fishing days. All recreationally-caught bluefin must be reported within 24 hours of landing to the NMFS automated phone system (888-872-8862 or through this website) or--in North Carolina and Maryland--to a local reporting station. Authorized gear: rod and reel (including downriggers), handline, and bandit gear.


ATLATNIC TUNAS GENERAL (commercial)
Vessel owners who harvest Atlantic tunas, including large medium and giant bluefin tuna, by handgear and plan to sell the tuna must obtain a General category permit. Vessels in the General category may retain and sell one (1) large medium or giant bluefin tuna per day per vessel. Vessels permitted in the General category are eligible to sell giant or large medium bluefin tuna. Authorized gear: rod and reel (including downriggers), harpoon, handline, and bandit gear.
 

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Marc,
I think its something of an open question. When the new permit was first proposed there was a rumor that only those with the angling license would be able to target sharks. I even wrote to NMFS about it, but I never heard anything back. If you read the FAQs on the permit site it says you are allowed to fish for and keep sharks, and it doesn't make any distinction between the angling and general category licenses. Bottom line is that I don't know the right answer, but the question has been asked before. I'm really interested to know what the correct answer is.
 

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Help me too!

My buddy has a "general" tuna permit allowing him to sell some fish. He has stated that with the new permit, we can't even fish shark tournaments on his boat anymore!

Now ~ he is confused!

Did he read the rule corectly????
 

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I went online with them a couple weeks ago through the chat they have.. In the end what I was told is you need to do something extra on top of the Gen Cat. to keep shark recreationally or you need an angler or charter boat license.

The number the woman gave me to call was 727 570 5326; My phone gave me some **** & I gave up. I'll probably be getting the anglers license anyway because I'm worried about being in a different class of boats & getting fined or misc. grief for not having a life raft.

Jon
 

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capt marc... i went on line today and chatted also with stephanie,,gave her the scenario that i wanted a permit to catch and sell a bf tuna and would i have to have the other permit in order to land and keep(not to sell a mako) she said only one permit issued to a boat and would need the general permit for the tuna,,but gen permit does not allow the keeping of sharks she gave me the same number as post above to try and get a different permit,,i still think something is wrong here
 

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Tuna Permit and Tuna regulations for 2003

I am going on a Tuna fishing trip and I logged on to Noreast.com and found out that I may need a Tuna permit this time out also I can not find regulations and bag limits? How are the Tuna Boats doing out there is there any reports? Thanks
 

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Sallyboy,
If you're going on your own boat, yes you need a permit. Just go to the uRL in the previous posts and you can get one online. I can give you the definitive tuna report for right now, there ain't none out there. Maybe by May or June.
 

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Mako

I just renewed my HMS Angling Permit for 2003. I checked with NMFS and you do not need a seperate permit to catch Mako or any other sharks or swords. The Angling Permit covers this fisghery. I geuss the sell permits are a little different. Mark
 

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permits

ok spoke with a customer service rep at NMFS and this is the deal
1) If you have a Charter head boat permit you can sell your catch and you can catch sharks, but you must abide by the recreational fishing bag limits(yellowfin).
2) a general category permit will not allow you to catch and keep sharks, but you can sell catch and keep as many (YF) as you catch.
3) Angling allows you to catch and keep everything, but you cannot sell.
4)one one permit per vessel
hmmmmmmm

So there seems to be a problem, b/c I want to be able to fish commercially for yellows and fish the shark tourneys... I asked the guy and he said they were looking in to it and would most likely have a statement out soon.
 

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retriever,

Yes, that's the whole problem being discussed - selling tuna & still fishing sharks. Not only for tournaments, but also for anyone who wants to fish gaint bluefin & sharks.. Hey, I'll do it recreationally & worse senario I've gotta find a way to unload 600 lbs of tuna steaks (man that would suck ;) ).. these are typically sold though & help fund those $1200 reels.

Jon
 
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