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Hi Al and All,

I was thinking about some of the possible advantages to using braided lines for trolling for stripers in the fall. I have never thought of using braid before because of the shock factor when trolling. However, I figured wire doesn't really stretch that much, and on a fiberglass rod, maybe braid would work. So, would braid be my answer for a substitue for wire, or would I wind up blowing up my rods. Any experiences or thoughts?
 

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doughboy,
Hmmm... That?s an interesting idea but here is my 2 cents worth.

First of all... I agree with you on the "NO" stretch factor! It also seems lighter and therefore... downsizing your tackle would also be in order... However, the wireline is heavier thus keeping the offering down (close to the bottom).

With braid line... you could do two things... slow down the boat speed or use extra trolling sinkers to keep your offering close to the bottom.

I like your thinking!

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doughboy,

last summer, i briefly experimented with trolling big lip mann's plugs with 30 # test fireline. i had no trouble bumping bottom with the small diameter of the fireline line.

i wouldn't worry about blowing out rods as long as drags are working properly and set within reason.

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Thanks guys,

I was just remembering last November when Steve Byrne was posting that he just trolled with mono and had no problem getting down 40 feet with shad umbrellas. I figured if mono could do it, the thinner diameter braids could do it even easier. I didn't really enjoy trolling wire and would rather fight the fish. I'll have to give it a shot next season. If necessary, I can put a drail in front of it. And of course, keep the drags lighter for the braids.

Now, how about trolling reverse green parachutes around Eatons Neck. If they would get down deep enough, the lighter braided line would make it a lot easier to work the rod.
 

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Hi Doughboy,

This is just a thought. I do not use synthetic so I can not speak from experience.

My concern would be the diameter of the synthetic line. It is so thin. What will happen to the line with trolling pressure and fighting a fish. I can picture the line being sucked down into the spool.

Remember, just a thought.

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Hi Capt. Neil,

Up late huh. That is a good point to consider. I have never had that problem, but I have not put the pressures of trolling and a striking fish on my reels. OPINARI stated he has tried this already. Maybe he can clarify the issue.


Thanks


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in my limited experience, i didn't have that problem with either spinning (fin nor ahab 20)
or conventional (penn 25 gls). but that is a serious concern.

captain neil - you are really starting to scare me now.

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OOOPPPPPSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm in trouble again. I should know better than to think!!!

What can you expect from someone who builds 14 1/2' fly rods and doesn't put all the guides on the same axis (Roberts wrap, spiral wrap, acid wraps or as my fishing partner calls it "the twisted sister").

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capt. neil,

you motivated ( scared ) me so much that i reread an article on trolling with braids that was in the 10/18/01 edition of the forbidden.

while the article did not mention the problem you warned about, it did provide a solution.

i spool my reels almost to the core with fireline. but if you were to use enough heavy mono backing so that all of your braid is in the water when on the troll, then the potential for such a disaster no longer exists.

hard to believe, but last summer's high gas prices may have saved me money.

doughboy - thanks for a good topic.

set,
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OPINARI,

If we are going to do it that way, how much line and pound test would you use? Do you have any idea what the line length/depth ratio was for the line you were using? I would probably go with 30 pound Power Pro and I would want to be able to get down 40 feet or so. I am sure 150 yards would do it but I don't want to overload it either.
 

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Also thought about doing this this year as I'm sick of using the wire but love the results. How about if you just stay away from using a levelwind reel and upon retrieve lay the braid on the spool in a more side to side motion than normal. Worth a try.
 

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Hi guys,

Opinari. Great memory, I forgot about the mono backing.

Garyt. I use mono and I move the line across the spool quickly every so often, especially in deep water,

Thanks

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doughboy,

i use 30 # fireline for all my striper fishing and will continue to do so for a long, long time as i have already purchased three 1000 yard spools.

i have no idea how much fireline i had in the water as the line is unmarked and i only have enough mono backing to keep the line from slipping on the spool.

i was able to bottom out mann's big lip plugs in 25 to 30 feet of water without any added weights, as advertised.

the article i referenced says (for lures in general) to allow 50 feet of braid for every 5 feet of trolling depth.

if i was going to do this the careful way, i would only use about 200 feet of fireline, so that i would be sure to have all the braid in the water. i would then add a weight if i had to go deeper than 20 or 30 feet. much easier to add weight than subtract braid. you might want to buy some light colored braid so that you can mark it every 25 feet with different colors of permanent magic marker.

trolling is not really my thing, but i bought a bunch of those big lip plugs last winter when i thought gas was free.

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