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I just came across this and figured we could try it out. For those of us that are here and want to try a live chat cut and paste this
htIp://freechat.raidersoft.com/sigmachat.pl?room=24228

all you have to do when the room opens up is type in your Nor'east "handle" in the dialog box click send and you're in.
 

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Do you really think it's that bad?

Opinari,

While I agree that some discussions get a bit out of hand, I still feel that we have a good mix of opinions and plenty of great communication.

For example we had users questioning the WICC contest rules, and they were answered by the people that actually run it!

Then we had users questioning certain winners and the possibility that they may not be on the up and up. Who else better to answer their questions but the anglers themselves ? and that is exactly what happened.

Now we have the hotly debated Hudson Anglers threads that have provided more insight to that fateful day then you could find anywhere, with input from numerous participants as well as family members of those that were lost.

These are just two of many great threads that we have seen posted to these boards, and while some people would like to see our users more cordial ? myself included ? overall I believe they represent us quite well.

You have also been a great addition to this board contributing positively to numerous threads and I appreciate it, but I think we need to keep in mind that all of our members are the very people you will find fishing next to you on a pier, in a party boat or down at the dock.

Thanks for you comments and contributions to our site, and if you have any suggestions as to how we could improve the board, please let us know.
 

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If there was a chat room, perhaps that would take up some of the extraneous banter? I don't find a lot of the non-fishing info junk posts to be bothersome. I actually find them entertaining. I think its a good mix of good info - from the tragedy to blackfish, to rod advice, to WICC winners, to rigging advice, - and as a bonus we have some joking going on, and some extraneous topics such as tropical fish and great pictures!. Sure there are some rude folks, but that is representative of people in general.

A chat may give people another outlet to bull**** with each other, vent, or give advise. Might cut down on the conversations that take place as some "threads". You know - the threads that read ..."hey, how did you make out?" Well I hit that spot and did great." Same rig? "yup, how's the wife and kids?"

Then again, it probably won't help, but its worth a shot. If frequented, its a great way to get to know other fisherman from another angle. And lets face it, this board does have a strong social aspect, which is a good thing.

A chat room is not mandatory. You don't have to go there if you are not interested.

...mocean
 

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My thoughts exactly...

Most of the stuff that gets posted here is good and useful information. Putting it in a forum gives all of us the opportunity to read, learn from and add to. Once it's posted it becomes archived and remains searchable for those who come after to catch up on as well as being available to us with limited memory spans to review. My thoughts about a chat room are not to detract from what is being done here but to provide a place for fisherpeople to.... well.... chat. How many times have you seen the boards used to carry on a live conversation? If it weren't so taxing, it would be used more often in such a manner. You post something directed to another member, two minutes later he answers you and now you realize he's on and you post something back to him. Most times this has nothing to do with the rest of us, it's usually just like "hey Joe, how did you do on Saturday after I left?" Or, "Mike, did you get the Private message I sent you?" Wouldn't it be nice to have a place where you could talk live to make arrangements to get together and just to discuss things? What could it hurt? If it's there and you want to use it you do, if you don't care to then don't use it. Anyway to coin a phrase, that's only my two cents. But the room that I hastily set up is still there if anyone wants to use it they can. The only problem is that you have to sign on separately each time you log on and if at least a few don't do it whenever they're on, no one will know who's here or not. By the way, the following IS correct, it must be some techno exception to the http;// rule~~>
htIp://freechat.raidersoft.com/sigmachat.pl?room=24228
 

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allow me to explain, and please correct me at this topic if i am wrong.

first, i am not an internet guy and i have never even been in a chat room, so maybe i am basing my opinion under incorrect assumptions.

my understanding of what chat rooms are and how they work is that anonymous people carry on conversations online. sounds like the discussion board, but differs in that it is faster, more spontaneous, not archived, not searchable or retrievable.

if my understanding is inaccurate - please accept my apologies and correct me.

i do not have any problem with the humor, banter, disagreements, controversies, personality clashes etc;
that occur on the posted reports or the discussion boards. it is either educational, or at least entertaining.
the beauty of the discussion boards and the posted reports is that it is out in the open for all the world to see, now or a year from now. if posters have a disagreement, there is a written record that they can review and clear up any misunderstanding they may have. although i post anonymously, i stand by my posts and would not be afraid to have any one of them published on the front page of the daily newspaper along with my name and photo. i think the fact that we are a community of anglers that do interact in the real world helps keep any of the negative discussions from truly getting out of control. 99.99 % of us are not willing to make complete fools of ourselves in public.

if members are going to have unpleasant exchanges in a chat room, 10 minutes later, they will not even remember EXACTLY what they themselves have actually said or the other member's words either. (this is the difference between written correspondence and verbal interaction. this is why we have stenographers and court transcripts.)
what they will remember is the escalating, negative emotions they have felt towards the other member.

as i said before, i think that the amount of negative exchanges on the posted reports and discussion boards are really less in number or severity than one might otherwise expect. i think taking disagreements into a chat room will only tend to make enemies out of people that really only had simple disagreements or misunderstandings that could have been positively resolved in the discussion forums to the benefit of all members. i fear that these now intensified negative relationships will spill back into the discussion boards and posted reports and poison other discussions.

private messaging is great for communications that do not involve the general membership. it would be nice if they would include a confirmation that they had been recieved, as well as sent messages to be saved by the sender.

noreast george,
obviously, i very much enjoy this site, and only write this in the interest of keeping this the number one fishing site on the net.
 

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opinari,

You seem to have it all right except you are missing the main point. One other thing that is clouding your judgment and distorting your view is the negative connotation that "chat room connotes arguing, foul language, sex and or hooking up for same" etc. (By the way, when I set the board up I applied the strictest of language filters that will automatically discard submissions that contain even the slightest hint of objectionable language.) The impressions that you have of chat rooms comes from an AOL mentality where all people from all walks are on one huge ISP and can cruise the rooms and pop in and out of them at will. This is different, it is a private chat, and the only people that would be coming into it are those that are from the Nor’east board. As I said, what is done here is great as far as the sharing of the information (that most but not all seem to be willing to do), contributing to topic discussions and then having it all archived and available for future use. That's what this is, consider it and ever-evolving piece of reference and research material contributed to and utilized by those who participate. The chat on the other hand is like a conference call or better yet, like a group of guys hanging out at the feed store or the barbershop around the potbelly stove. :) Seriously, I've already had positive feedback about it from the few that have used it in its unofficial, unpromoted, bells and whistle-less beta testing form. Guys that would have never even spoken to, or known of each other have made arrangements to meet and fish together, others have gotten home from a day or night of fishing and were able to share their experiences real time with those of like interest while others bounced their days or evenings events off of each other. Posting something and having someone else read it, and possibly respond to it is one thing, but having a real conversation with someone is something all together different. Now obviously, none of us are ready to just go and blindly post our addresses and phone numbers here (****, most won't even tell you where they fish!), but being able to have a conversation with someone, get to know what they are like, seeing that you might have things, methods, places or acquaintances in common might foster the beginning of a new friendship or fishing partnership. As I said, if it's there and you don't see it's usefulness or benefit you don’t have to use it. It's not the Boogie Man, I promise you it won't come out and bite you while you're sleeping.
 

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Live Chat

I've been a active internet user for more then 6 years and not only am I a member of other lists, but I also co-own one: Cart Racing Plus, which is about all forms of open wheel racing. We have more the 75 members, averaging 35-50+ posts per day. So you can safely say that it's a fairly active list.

We've tried on several occasions to startup and promote our chat room which we still have, but is rarely used.
the main problems that came out of our survey was that:

1-Many members were actually too shy to post in real time.
2- Some worried about spelling and grammer mistakes.
3-Others stated that the time wasn't convenient for them.
4- Still others felt that they didn't have anything useful to offer.
5-And that their ideas would be laughed at and made fun of.

So I wouldn't think it's this group, but the general nature of the chat rooms.
 

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LIVE CHAT

I think it's great, was there the other night and had a good time, too bad others didn't join in. The filtering for bad language works great for those who would be offened. Try it out!!! ya never know who you're gonna meet there.
 

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OK We'll Give It Another Try

Nightcaster and Others,

I'll have a new chat room installed sometime next week and I think we'll volunteer Nightcaster - with all of his wit and wisdom - to be the official moderator!

I'll set up a spot on the home page to announce any scheduled chats and we'll see how it goes from there.

By the way, watch for our new recipe section next week. I think you'll like it.
 
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