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Thats it.

I'm fed up with all the anti-Obama anti-Democrat stuff on this site. Its seems like on every thread there is anti-Democrat stuff or attacks on Obama or all Democrats. Rarely do I see threads started which are antagonistic towards Republicans. Sure I may make a post here or there, but they are substantive posts and now "smears"
or potshots.

There are constant attacks on environmental restrictions placed upon corporations that are meant to preserve the oceans, forests and all those things we enjoy the most. It's also ironic, that this group, a bunch of fisherman and boaters who so very much enjoy their time on the water support activities which damage this environment which we enjoy.

The Demorcats restricting oil drilling fiasco, so frequently raised by Scott1280 is a prime example and something that pushed me over the edge. Its seems like a vast majority of people think that oil is in endless supply and to get more you simply drill more. If you want to believe that, fine, go ahead live in that fantasy. There is a limited amount of the stuff and when we run out, we run out that?s it.

Go ahead, let the corporations continue doing what they're doing. Give them massive tax breaks and tax the middle class to death, while those same corporations who get tax breaks outsource jobs to the entire world. Ford recently announced it's a building a new plant in Mexico to produce cars that will be sold in the U.S. Go ahead, let them do whatever they want.

Go ahead, eliminate Social Security and all social assistance programs. Who needs them. Let the poor starve, even if they are hardworking but can't find a job because that factory which provided an economic base has been shut down as those jobs have been outsourced. Let the elderly rot away, as they didn't make enough money while they were working. I guess they didn't work hard enough. Let wounded troops care for themselves. AFterall, its a volunteer military and it was their choice to enlist and get wounded.

Etc, etc, etc.

I'm done. I'm tired of being outnumbered and bombarded. I'm taking a Libertarian/Republican approach to things now. Leave me alone, don't bother me, let me do what I want and the heck with everything and everybody else.

Good luck guys. See some of you on the water.
 

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I know I must have made your day Scott. I knew we had our disagreements on some issues but I didn't think this would amuse you.

But I'm happy. I won't have to deal with constantly getting barraged. :) And/or receive nasty PM's from members on this board.





This post edited by GradySailfish 11:59 AM 06/18/2008
 

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GradySailfish wrote:


I know I must have made your day Scott. I knew we had our disagreements on some issues but I didn't think this would amuse you.

But I'm happy. I won't have to deal with constantly getting barraged. :)




I thought you were done?
 

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I really hate to see anyone just walk away from the boards just because of a difference of opinions, particularly when the majority of what's in Alex's goodbye note aren't the positions that I, or many of my conservative brethren, have taken.

But hey, if you have a different opinion and don't think you have enough horsepower to defend it, I guess walking away is a good option for you. Easier than being in conflict with your own beliefs.

Fair winds & following seas!

Scott
 

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Too bad you feel that way Grady, you will be missed...

I use the "flame" test before I post...

Would it bother me if my post started a major flame war that called me an idiot?

If the answer to that is "NO," then I hit "Submit."

If the answer is "YES," then I don't submit.

And no one ever claimed that what you read on web boards is anything more than stream of consciousness, a level of consiousness and conscience of the people posting that you have to be the judge of.

May the Fish Gods continue to smile upon you...
 

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GradySailfish wrote:

Thats it.

I'm fed up with all the anti-Obama anti-Democrat stuff on this site. Its seems like on every thread there is anti-Democrat stuff or attacks on Obama or all Democrats. Rarely do I see threads started which are antagonistic towards Republicans. Sure I may make a post here or there, but they are substantive posts and now "smears"
or potshots.

There are constant attacks on environmental restrictions placed upon corporations that are meant to preserve the oceans, forests and all those things we enjoy the most. It's also ironic, that this group, a bunch of fisherman and boaters who so very much enjoy their time on the water support activities which damage this environment which we enjoy.

The Demorcats restricting oil drilling fiasco, so frequently raised by Scott1280 is a prime example and something that pushed me over the edge. Its seems like a vast majority of people think that oil is in endless supply and to get more you simply drill more. If you want to believe that, fine, go ahead live in that fantasy. There is a limited amount of the stuff and when we run out, we run out that?s it.

Go ahead, let the corporations continue doing what they're doing. Give them massive tax breaks and tax the middle class to death, while those same corporations who get tax breaks outsource jobs to the entire world. Ford recently announced it's a building a new plant in Mexico to produce cars that will be sold in the U.S. Go ahead, let them do whatever they want.

Go ahead, eliminate Social Security and all social assistance programs. Who needs them. Let the poor starve, even if they are hardworking but can't find a job because that factory which provided an economic base has been shut down as those jobs have been outsourced. Let the elderly rot away, as they didn't make enough money while they were working. I guess they didn't work hard enough. Let wounded troops care for themselves. AFterall, its a volunteer military and it was their choice to enlist and get wounded.

Etc, etc, etc.

I'm done. I'm tired of being outnumbered and bombarded. I'm taking a Libertarian/Republican approach to things now. Leave me alone, don't bother me, let me do what I want and the heck with everything and everybody else.

Good luck guys. See some of you on the water.


I agree with you on a lot of what you posted here. BUT, opinions should be taken with a grain of salt.
Some have opinions and some are opinionated. Some are just pain stubborn.
 

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WTG Gradysailfish....Agree 100% whit you and you don't have to said good bye,just do what I do ignore the bunch of RADICALS and LIBERALS that keep posting non sense and some time hypocrite comments that make me laugh........Fredd
 

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GradySailfish wrote:

I know I must have made your day Scott. I knew we had our disagreements on some issues but I didn't think this would amuse you.

But I'm happy. I won't have to deal with constantly getting barraged. :) And/or receive nasty PM's from members on this board.

Why would you have made my day??:confused: you really didn't participate in all that many political threads in the first place, and I'm more than willing to stand my ground on any position I believe in, and concede any position where I have been swayed or shown to be wrong.

What "amuses" me is the way that you rant and rave and spin our (my) position on some things. I was trying to be a mensch by not dissecting your fairwell address and pointing out your spin.

You don't like all the Anti-Obama stuff? OK. So tell us what he's going to do to make everything so much better for us. Site his accomplishments. Explain his plans. Show us how he's going to make the world better.

You don't like the anti-democrat stuff? That's fine too. You went ahead and put up a post about the 3 best administrations were democrats. Did I rant and rave and make drive by posts? No! I tried to make a fair analysis of the info you provided and give my side of the issue. You were more than welcome to respond to my opinion, but didn't (I don't think). I even stated I wouldn't reply on the LBJ issue because I wasn't familiar enough with his administration to do so. I don't think I can be more intellectually honest than that.

Who ever said anything about eliminating social security and all assistance programs? Who wants to let the poor stare? Who is going to help the poor have prosperity? Welfare checks or Paychecks? Who provides those paychecks? Those eeeeevil little corporations you keep demonizing.

Who wants to let the elderly rot away? Or let wounded troops care for themselves? When did we EVER suggest either? I guess, in your mind, if we don't agree 100% with your position on an issue then we just don't care. That's like when the school boards try and raise taxes 105 and then if you say "hold on a minute!" then "You're against the children". Nice try, but it just aint so!


You seem to be on a little bit of a trade and that's fine. If you want to take your ball and go home, feel free. Sorry to see you go.

Tightlines!

Scott
 

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Stay out of the political threads their bad only trouble makers go there:):)

This post edited by canyonfvr 12:25 PM 06/18/2008
 

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No need to go. Just ignore ( me, us, them?) but this site is to full of good people with great info to share to just up and leave. You'd be doing yourself a great diservice by leaving. If you were around during the windmill debates you'd know I took a lot of heat, being called a terrorist lover, anti-american, etc. But stay true to your beliefs. No one can crticize conviction. Hate to see anyone go. ( well maybe Patrick, but that's it)
 

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canyonfvr wrote:
Stay out of the political threads their bad only trouble makers go there:):)
I second that



Why quit???
Stay away from political BS talk!!!!
Cause all it is is BS!!!
Yes....it's is.

How bout dem Yankees

Were on a roll now!!!

BOSTON SUCKS......opps Sorry.
 

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Gaucho wrote:
canyonfvr wrote:
Stay out of the political threads their bad only trouble makers go there:):)
I second that



Why quit???
Stay away from political BS talk!!!!
Cause all it is is BS!!!
Yes....it's is.

How bout dem Yankees

Were on a roll now!!!

BOSTON SUCKS......opps Sorry.>>>>>>>>LOL....LOL....LOL...good one Gaucho
 

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canyonfvr wrote:
Stay out of the political threads their bad only trouble makers go there:):)

Say what?


Grady, that is why we have two parties, two ideologies.. the repubs believe if we take care of the rich (and themselves), they will take care of us in the "trickle down" theory..

The dems are tired of the taste of urine ..

Don't argue vote
 
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