[loligo]

Tasmanian fishermen want to sell escaped salmon
fishfarmer-magazine wrote:

We should be able to take them with our saltwater licences and be able to sell them," he said.
Pheroze Jungalwalla of the Salmonid Growers Association says that's out of the question.

This post edited by loligo 04:15 PM 01/04/2008

 

[loligo]

Million dollar salmon escape

ABC wrote:

The Department of Primary Industries and Water believes a net torn open, allowing up to 25,000 salmon to escape from a Nubeena farm.

 

[MakoMike]

I don't understand why they can't sell them f they are catching them and no one wants them in the water anyway.

 

[HungryJack]

MakoMike wrote:
I don't understand why they can't sell them f they are catching them and no one wants them in the water anyway.
Let's review;

Big bag of fish sitting in the water that ANYBODY can sell,
bag is very valuable to EVERYBODY

Big bag of fish only a few people can sell,
bag is basically worthless to everybody but the few.

Allowing the sale of these fish would promote vandalism on the fish farms to release the fish and give the locals the opportunity to profit from it.

See simple.

Just got to have some real world experience in these matters.


This post edited by HungryJack 06:52 PM 01/04/2008

 

[MakoMike]

Big bag of fish has already broken open and everyone is afraid that the escapees will cause great environmental harm. So where is the problem in letting the fishermen that are catching them sell them for way the next 30 or 60 days?

 

[loligo]

MakoMike wrote:
Big bag of fish has already broken open and everyone is afraid that the escapees will cause great environmental harm. So where is the problem in letting the fishermen that are catching them sell them for way the next 30 or 60 days?


That does make sense Mike, allow them to only harvest for a certain amount of time.

 

[mangohuntr1]

Tasmania is not worth a discussion

We have enough fisheries issues locally in this Ocean to be concerned with before some political controversy over a very small (comaratively speaking) number of fish swimming around some islands 24 hours flying time from Long Island.

 

[loligo]

mangohuntr1 wrote:
We have enough fisheries issues locally in this Ocean to be concerned with before some political controversy over a very small (comaratively speaking) number of fish swimming around some islands 24 hours flying time from Long Island.


says the guy who's name I've never seen as a thread starter here?

Hey- it's interesting....ok?

If you have something local to discuss, then by all means, please post away.

 

[HungryJack]

MakoMike wrote:
1.Big bag of fish has already broken open and everyone is afraid that the escapees will cause great environmental harm.
2.So where is the problem in letting the fishermen that are catching them sell them for way the next 30 or 60 days?

1. The environmental harm thing is the official story.

2. First, if they allowed them to sell the fish for any period of time,
there can be no control over where they end up for sale.
The company and government have invested in the "brand" of these fish,
and lower quality fish with their associate "id" on them in the market place can hurt their investment.

Pheroze Jungalwalla of the Salmonoid Growers Association says that's out of the question.
"That would compromise the standards of quality and good safety which the salmon industry has built its reputation on," he said.

Second, if you let them sell the fish after an accident occurs,
like I initially said, you would then promote/cause more "accidents" to occur.

Protocol is, you collect from the insurance company for your loss,
the government/municipality collects from them for the cleanup,
contract is given to a company for cleanup and disposal of the fish.

Fish in the bag are still worthless to the locals and you recovered most of your economic loss.

Fish Farming in Foreign Lands 101

 

[DarthBaiter]

If they allow them to harvest the fish from ripped bags, who's to say the dip****es(pronounced, poachers) that things like go and steal lobsters from other peeps traps to come along and cut a hole in the bag and say it's ripped lets fish and sell the catch?

 

[MakoMike]

HJ,
O.K. why don't they allow them to sell the fish back to the fish farming company? Or the insurance company? Seems like they want it both ways, they want to protect their label but they also want to avoid paying the fishermen who are actually doing the clean up.

 

[HungryJack]

Short Answer

MakoMike wrote:
Seems like they want it both ways,
they want to protect their label but they also want to avoid paying the fishermen who are actually doing the clean up.

Isn't that what INSURANCE is for ?
To insulate yourself from liability and loss.


Long answer with a bit more detail why what you suggest wouldn't work for the insurance company or fish farm either.
That will be covered in Fish Farming in Foreign Countries 201

 

[MakoMike]

I realize what insurance is for, but let me ask you this, do you think that insurance company won't attempt to miminize the cost of the clean up? IMHO at a minimum, the fishermen tat are catching the escapees should be able (required?) to sell them back to the insurance company or the fish farm.

 

[HungryJack]

MakoMike wrote:
IMHO at a minimum, the fishermen tat are catching the escapees should be able (required?) to sell them back to the insurance company or the fish farm.
Good thing you don't manage a fish farm or an insurance company.
Forcing or requiring the insurance company to take back the fish would only make for additional expense for the insurance company.

I will let you ponder the actual situation of fish being caught, transported, held/stored, then sold by the insurance company,
and consider the expenses and problems associated with accomplishing this,
then calculate if there will be any recovery of loss by the insurance company.

HJ the Educator prefers to bring his students on a voyage of self discovery.
Unlike others who choose to lecture and drone on with their supposed knowledge and boring their readers to tears and ignorance.

I find a more effective method to share knowledge is to get the students involved, thinking, asking questions,
and discovering the answers on their own.
IMHO and experience the Professor HJ method is far more effective way to educate and motivate individuals.


See my new slogan for the year:

"HJ Educates in 08"

This post edited by HungryJack 10:39 AM 01/06/2008