TARPON IN GARDNIERS BAY
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Yes. Around 10 years ago, there was a tarpon caught on a chunk at Montauk. The fish was kept and brought into a tackle shop.
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Fish22 wrote:
:a friend told me he hooked and alomst landed (lost at side of boat) an approximately 100 lb tarpon on the fly. i dont know if i believe him because i didnt see any picutres. anyone ever seen or heard of large tarpon around here?
A good sea story if nothing else.I would not spend any $$ on new gear to fish for them
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:a friend told me he hooked and alomst landed (lost at side of boat) an approximately 100 lb tarpon on the fly. i dont know if i believe him because i didnt see any picutres. anyone ever seen or heard of large tarpon around here?A good sea story if nothing else.I would not spend any $$ on new gear to fish for them
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With the climate changes and the warmer winters I wouldn't be surprised if we see all manner of warmer water species. The climate change is already affecting the wineries out on the north fork, they're having better crops each sucessive year.
Just about every year an East Hampton fisherman or a bayman reports a hooked or netted tarpon in Gardiner's Bay. Less frequent are reports of small Great Whites. Urban myths? But then again I caught a small Barracuda in Zach's Bay in the 60's. Can't wait for the bonefish to appear.
I remember being in Montauk when the surf caught tarpon was landed off the point. A very well known mate told me his theory on why the tarpon was up our way. He said that this tarpon probably got caught up in a school of bluefish as a juvenile fish in Florida and spent it's whole life thinking he was a bluefish. Basically, travelling with the school that eventually found it's way to Montauk. Do I believe the story of tarpon in our area. Sure. Go to any local aquarium and they will probably have a tank of "incidentals". Fish that get caught up in warm water eddies that get pulled into the LI Sound. My friend's father swears he saw a whale shark in the sound decades ago. Others claim to have seen ocean sunfish.
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Fish22 wrote:
Cvis300 wrote:
But then again I caught a small Barracuda in Zach's Bay in the 60's.
ive seen people catch small barracudas on sabiki rigs off the montauk jetties maybe a year or 2 ago.
I believe those aren't barracudas but sennets, pretty common in our area. Bachala, Ocean Sunfish are common as well. Seen a few in Montauk outside the breakers as well as Outer Shagwong at times. With all these red eyed jellies from NY to the Cape, I think we'll see many come late summer and fall.
Cvis300 wrote:
But then again I caught a small Barracuda in Zach's Bay in the 60's.
ive seen people catch small barracudas on sabiki rigs off the montauk jetties maybe a year or 2 ago.
I believe those aren't barracudas but sennets, pretty common in our area. Bachala, Ocean Sunfish are common as well. Seen a few in Montauk outside the breakers as well as Outer Shagwong at times. With all these red eyed jellies from NY to the Cape, I think we'll see many come late summer and fall.
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Cvis300 wrote:
Just about every year an East Hampton fisherman or a bayman reports a hooked or netted tarpon in Gardiner's Bay. Less frequent are reports of small Great Whites. Urban myths? But then again I caught a small Barracuda in Zach's Bay in the 60's. Can't wait for the bonefish to appear.
They're here already. I posted a link a while back about a compilation of fish species found in NY and there was a school of juvenile bone fish found in Clam Pond Cove on Fire Island one year. Where there's one, there's more.
And tarpon have been found up here many times. The old pound nets that used to be along the South Shore in the Atlantic Ocean used to catch many interesting species, tarpon included.
Chris
Just about every year an East Hampton fisherman or a bayman reports a hooked or netted tarpon in Gardiner's Bay. Less frequent are reports of small Great Whites. Urban myths? But then again I caught a small Barracuda in Zach's Bay in the 60's. Can't wait for the bonefish to appear.
They're here already. I posted a link a while back about a compilation of fish species found in NY and there was a school of juvenile bone fish found in Clam Pond Cove on Fire Island one year. Where there's one, there's more.
And tarpon have been found up here many times. The old pound nets that used to be along the South Shore in the Atlantic Ocean used to catch many interesting species, tarpon included.
Chris
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Bioone online journal wrote:
Elopiformes
Elopidae (tarpons). Ladyfish (Elops saurus). Uncommon. Bean (1899, 1901) noted one from Gravesend Bay in 1888 and another near Clam Pond, Great South Bay on 17 October 1898. Latham (1917, 191
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reported it from Orient on 16 October 1916 and 19 October 1917, stating, ?We usually obtain one or two records each fall.? Hickey et al. (1975) found it at Montauk. Briggs et al. (1985) reported several from Orient in October, 1985. We have found it as far west as Northport in Long Island Sound in a thermal plume (17 January 1970).
Tarpon (Megalops atlanticus). Large adults are uncommon but regular summer visitors. Young have not been seen (Hickey et al. 1976; Briggs et al. 1985). Newspaper reports and pictures indicated an angler took an adult tarpon while surf casting at Montauk Point on 17 August 1997. All prior reports of the species were from pound net catches or fish surveys.
Albuliformes
Albulidae (bonefishes). Bonefish (Albula vulpes). Rare. While Alperin and Schaefer (1964) seined 108 juveniles in Great South Bay, few adults and no other juveniles have been reported in New York. Bean (1903) noted one bonefish but gave no date or location. Breder and Nigrelli (1934) reported a 61 cm fish from Long Island Sound. Latham (1964) reported one of 55.3 cm from Orient on 1 October 1939 and another of 35.6 cm there on 17 June 1940. Briggs et al. (1979) reported two (3.0 and 3.3 kg) from gill nets off the south shore of Long Island in September 1978.
Elopiformes
Elopidae (tarpons). Ladyfish (Elops saurus). Uncommon. Bean (1899, 1901) noted one from Gravesend Bay in 1888 and another near Clam Pond, Great South Bay on 17 October 1898. Latham (1917, 191
Tarpon (Megalops atlanticus). Large adults are uncommon but regular summer visitors. Young have not been seen (Hickey et al. 1976; Briggs et al. 1985). Newspaper reports and pictures indicated an angler took an adult tarpon while surf casting at Montauk Point on 17 August 1997. All prior reports of the species were from pound net catches or fish surveys.
Albuliformes
Albulidae (bonefishes). Bonefish (Albula vulpes). Rare. While Alperin and Schaefer (1964) seined 108 juveniles in Great South Bay, few adults and no other juveniles have been reported in New York. Bean (1903) noted one bonefish but gave no date or location. Breder and Nigrelli (1934) reported a 61 cm fish from Long Island Sound. Latham (1964) reported one of 55.3 cm from Orient on 1 October 1939 and another of 35.6 cm there on 17 June 1940. Briggs et al. (1979) reported two (3.0 and 3.3 kg) from gill nets off the south shore of Long Island in September 1978.
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i remember some guy lost like a 5' tarpon in peconic bay a year or to ago. saw a guy catch a small cuda on the south shore last year.
other then a few small jacks i havent caught or seen anyother "exotics". i only hope the seas get warmer!
other then a few small jacks i havent caught or seen anyother "exotics". i only hope the seas get warmer!
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I don't have more stories than anyone else, I just tell them all at once!
Last fall I saw a live Jack Crevalle in a plastic bag on the 69th street pier that someone caught with a bottom bait. I saw Red Porgies being used as bait, which aren't sold in any bait/tacke shops so I suspect they were caught somewhere else by the person. A few years ago my Grandpa saw a Mola Mola in Montauk. A long time ago I went on a boat tour of a sandbar off of riverhead to look for fiddler crabs with a guide and a few other ppl and there were a few Crab Traps set out to show ppl what lives in these waters. What he pulled in was a large Sheepshead. I used to catch tons of baby Northern Kingfish in dipnest on the Coney Island Beach. There is a website about fishing in the East River or something and the guy snagged an old sinker on the bottom and there was a Pipefish coiled around it. The Coney Island Aquarium gets huge shipments of frozen Capelin (Smelt) that are caught just offshore from here in nets, although when we disected them in the camp I went to one of them had a hook wound in its jaw. Last year at the camp someone caught a bait-sized Sennett Barracuda. In Cape Cod, Flyingfish are regularly seen on Whalewatching trips (As are HUGE Dogfish.) I have seen Banded Rudderfish on the 69th street pier, and Needlefish skipping around in the surf on the CI beach. Reports from my neighbor, a deckhand on a party boat, of huge Stingrays and a "Sand Shark" of 16 lb on a live eel that I suspect to actually be an Atlantic Sharpnose, judging by their range, predatory habits, and size. Ppl catching Cusk Eels on all-night Fluke trips.
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Last fall I saw a live Jack Crevalle in a plastic bag on the 69th street pier that someone caught with a bottom bait. I saw Red Porgies being used as bait, which aren't sold in any bait/tacke shops so I suspect they were caught somewhere else by the person. A few years ago my Grandpa saw a Mola Mola in Montauk. A long time ago I went on a boat tour of a sandbar off of riverhead to look for fiddler crabs with a guide and a few other ppl and there were a few Crab Traps set out to show ppl what lives in these waters. What he pulled in was a large Sheepshead. I used to catch tons of baby Northern Kingfish in dipnest on the Coney Island Beach. There is a website about fishing in the East River or something and the guy snagged an old sinker on the bottom and there was a Pipefish coiled around it. The Coney Island Aquarium gets huge shipments of frozen Capelin (Smelt) that are caught just offshore from here in nets, although when we disected them in the camp I went to one of them had a hook wound in its jaw. Last year at the camp someone caught a bait-sized Sennett Barracuda. In Cape Cod, Flyingfish are regularly seen on Whalewatching trips (As are HUGE Dogfish.) I have seen Banded Rudderfish on the 69th street pier, and Needlefish skipping around in the surf on the CI beach. Reports from my neighbor, a deckhand on a party boat, of huge Stingrays and a "Sand Shark" of 16 lb on a live eel that I suspect to actually be an Atlantic Sharpnose, judging by their range, predatory habits, and size. Ppl catching Cusk Eels on all-night Fluke trips.
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I once caught an amberjack by the meadowbrook bridge on a live snapper while fluke fishing, then the year following that I caught a much smaller one while bottom fishing in the bay, I read about and saw pictures of an estimated 150lb. tarpon caught off cape cod
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! I have also caught many small bar jacks while snapper fishing. I caught many of those sennet baracudas in montauk on sabikis, I had no idea what they were until now. As you can tell I am pretty good at catching exotic species, but when it comes to targeting our local species, eh not so much.
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Bachala wrote:
I remember being in Montauk when the surf caught tarpon was landed off the point. A very well known mate told me his theory on why the tarpon was up our way. He said that this tarpon probably got caught up in a school of bluefish as a juvenile fish in Florida and spent it's whole life thinking he was a bluefish. Basically, travelling with the school that eventually found it's way to Montauk. Do I believe the story of tarpon in our area. Sure. Go to any local aquarium and they will probably have a tank of "incidentals". Fish that get caught up in warm water eddies that get pulled into the LI Sound. My friend's father swears he saw a whale shark in the sound decades ago. Others claim to have seen ocean sunfish.
Ocean Sunfish are common on the South Shore, and I have seen them in the Sound near Port Jefferson within the last few years.
Also,the Gulf Stream is not that far out, and swirls of tropical water break off and often reach Long Island, carrying with them all sorts of tropical sea life. Flying fish are also common all the way up to New Jersey, so it would not be unusual for them to be in Long Island waters. On a recent trip sailing up from Florida we had flying fish around us all the way to when we headed in for NY Harbor, they are very common.
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I remember being in Montauk when the surf caught tarpon was landed off the point. A very well known mate told me his theory on why the tarpon was up our way. He said that this tarpon probably got caught up in a school of bluefish as a juvenile fish in Florida and spent it's whole life thinking he was a bluefish. Basically, travelling with the school that eventually found it's way to Montauk. Do I believe the story of tarpon in our area. Sure. Go to any local aquarium and they will probably have a tank of "incidentals". Fish that get caught up in warm water eddies that get pulled into the LI Sound. My friend's father swears he saw a whale shark in the sound decades ago. Others claim to have seen ocean sunfish.
Ocean Sunfish are common on the South Shore, and I have seen them in the Sound near Port Jefferson within the last few years.
Also,the Gulf Stream is not that far out, and swirls of tropical water break off and often reach Long Island, carrying with them all sorts of tropical sea life. Flying fish are also common all the way up to New Jersey, so it would not be unusual for them to be in Long Island waters. On a recent trip sailing up from Florida we had flying fish around us all the way to when we headed in for NY Harbor, they are very common.
This post edited by Striper77 09:36 PM 08/10/2008
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