[jets28]

This s going to be my first fall since someone has turned me on to surf fishing and I have just bought my night fishing permit and i want to catch some fish. I have been fishing the north shore all summer and I am going to make a switch to the south shore I klnow I will need a change in equip. What lures should i use and what bait does anyone suggest ill prob be at one of the jones beach feilds unless anyone has a better suggestion.
PLEASE ALL HELP IS APPRECTIATED

 

[Mike Lang]

Lures and bait.

Starting RIGHT NOW, you can go down to the SS and get Bass. This is some of what I would bring to plug with.

Blue and white Super strike Little neck poppers( because the plastic holds up when the blues are thick).

Yellow SS poppers.

3 oz. gibbs Pencil poppers, Any medium and large metal lips-Beach Masters-Gibbs.
3/4, 1,and 1 1/2 oz bucktails. white and yellow and white and red pork rind.
7 inch redfins in Blue/crome and white w/red head.

Bait is easy, FRESH BUNKER just like the North Shore, but beef up your gear to alow for 6-12 ozs. of lead plus bait.

Good luck.
Mike Lang

 

[jets28]

thank you

Thank you so much. Belive it or not I'm going to print that out. I just started to learn how to fsh this year but what do you mean beef up your gear I have 10 ft. surf rod and 20lb mono line should I put heavier line?

I'll ask the guy at the bait shop how to work those plugs but will I really need 12oz lead for casting what size weight do you suggest? Also how do you rig your bunker what size leader? do you use those bass rigs where the weight slides or....?

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!FOR YOUR HELP
you obviouslly know what your doing.

 

[Mike Lang]

I meant you might have to use beefier gear to chunk bait on the south shore as opposed to the north shore. There are times at the right stage of the tide where you might get away with as little as a 4 oz pyramid, but it would also depend on the moon stage and it would have to by at the end of a tide, so why not just throw 8 ozs. and fish the stage of tide you deem right. The set up for chunking is SIMPLE and try to keep it that way, slide a fish finder rig up on your main line, and tie directly to the barrel swivel of the hooks leader,which is best at around 14-16 inches of 60+ lb. test leader.
It would be hard to type out how to work those plugs, which bait shop do you frquent?

GOod Luck.

ML

A 10 foot rod sounds like you are on the money for plugging.

 

[jets28]

i usually go to either causeway in wantagh when im home or dave's in northport when im at my girl friends.

so you suggest 8oz are good for chunking? do you suggest 8oz pyramids?do they make them?i dont know.

you said my 10ft is good for the plugs what about the chunks is the rod still good for that?

again thank you for your help you really are very imformative.some times it feels like fisherman who know there stuff dont feel like helping people just starting like they dont want to give away secrets. thank you

if you dont mind im sure i will have lots more of questions

 

[Mike Lang]

Causway B & T

Go there and talk to Mike or Bobby, both great people and fisherman, that will both set you on your way with true knowledge and great pointers.

What kind of 10 foot rod, action, what kind of reel?

Yes pyramids, they "stick" and do not roll as other would in the surf.

Ideally a conventional setup is optimum for chunking, but nothing wrong with the right spinning gear.
ML

 

[616357]

Good places to start fishing on the western south shore are West End 2, Jones Beach, Gilgo, Tobay. Get State Permit at Robert Moses Ranger Station. Get started with the gear you have make sure your line is new. Check out beaches 2 hours before and after high tide or dusk and dawn. Once on the beack you will get to meet others and see what they are fishing with regards to gear. The ranger station at Robert Moses will give you a map of all the beaches you can access with or without 4wd. You can chunk all the beaches and plug the jetties at WE2. Good luck. There are some fisherman on the beaches who are quite friendly. Make sure you take all your trash. I usually offer my left over bait if I do not feel like taking it home to people on the beach and that can start some conversations.

 

[jets28]

eels

what do you guys think about using live eels as bait on the south shore beachs?

 

[614097]

Don't do it!

 

[Mike Lang]

Eels and the SS beaches

It is probably one of the best ways to cover a few miles of beach front at night, cast and walk and cast and walk.
More importantly, keep a good log of where, when and why, with all conditions. Soon you will see a pattern, or know why not.
ML

 

[Crazy-Al]

Jets28,
Thanks for posting and I assure you that you are getting prime tips from a well established surf sharpie (Mike Lang)! Hey Mike Lang, I will see you at the show tonight!

Mike84 made some valid points about the locations and scouting new spots. He is also right about taking all the trash! Carry a garbage bag and keep the beaches clean.

In regards to eels… Those slimy long skinny things are deadly around beaches and jetties! Although it catches fish during daylight… it is best used during the night hours when the trophy striper stalks the shallows.

Tight Lines,

"Crazy" Alberto
[email protected]

 

[jets28]

eels

with the eels weight no weight?
just a hook leader and a swivell right?
how long of a leader?

thank you to everyone all the questions i had asked where answered in detail and it will really help me out big time.

 

[614097]

Jets-

When you get advice from CA & ML, you're getting the best around. I would add that your leader should be as long as the fish you expect to catch. I use 50# mono - about 3.5 feet.

Good luck this fall - catch that cow!

Steve

 

[wader]

I use eels almost exclusively August through November on the North Shore.

I rig:
No weight
18" 20# leader with a 6.0 bait or circle hook
Hook through the eels lower jaw & out an eye socket
Toss eel & drift it with the bail open or if you're using one of the newer Baitrunner type reels - leave the gizmo up that allows free spool
Once you feel it's drifted enough - drop the bail or engage the clutch on the Baitrunner & retreive real slow - couple of turns - stop - lifting the rod tip every now & then.

Again - this is the way I do it up North in the Nissequoge. Works well in the currents in the river. Not sure how this will work on an open beach on the South Shore. Should be fine for inlets & back bay eeling.

Should mention this is from shore.

I've tried a variaton on this from boats. Same basic set up - but - I add an egg sinker to the line ahead of the snap swivel. This keeps the eel near the bottom if your in 20 feet or water or so & allows the line to pay out with the open bail & the eel to swim if you've got little or no current or are anchored up.

 

[621109]

jet fan?

JETS 28: i would help ya out but i see you are a jet fan GO GIANTS!!!

 

[jets28]

thank you

thanks for the tip on eels on the north shore it is very helpful for me because my girlfriend lives in kings park so i am at sunken meadow at night all the time. so you use eels in the niss river where do you fish from surf there do you go down the river or right at the mouth? i have been wanting all summer to walk sm beach all the way to the mouth of the river at night. so the eels the would prob be great bait from sm beach to then? what plugs or lures do you use in the niss? thank you again for your help.

go jets

 

[621109]

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