stick or auto on the beach
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I have a stick only because it was a good deal from the Jeep dealer. I have to disagree with you on the rocking point. Unless you are a professional drummer, I do not think there are many people who could rock a truck with a clutch more efficiently than rocking a truck with an automatic transmission. Besides it's tough enough to drive, smoke a nice cuban, tie a teaser rig, have a cup of java, eat a roast beef hero, check the GPS, double check the tide chart, listen to the CB, while cell phoning your buddies about a blitz going on w/ out having to shift a manual transmission too. K-I-S-S... Keep It Simple Stupid.
I have a stick only because it was a good deal from the Jeep dealer. I have to disagree with you on the rocking point. Unless you are a professional drummer, I do not think there are many people who could rock a truck with a clutch more efficiently than rocking a truck with an automatic transmission. Besides it's tough enough to drive, smoke a nice cuban, tie a teaser rig, have a cup of java, eat a roast beef hero, check the GPS, double check the tide chart, listen to the CB, while cell phoning your buddies about a blitz going on w/ out having to shift a manual transmission too. K-I-S-S... Keep It Simple Stupid.
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I think a stick is a bit easier to rock - and it's also much safer. I destroyed an automatic transmission rocking an s-10 pickup, w/ 33 inch tires, when the 4-wheel drive went & I got stuck in the mud. Whether or not you think it's easier - a standard transmission is much more solid & can take the abuse.
As far as driving in the sand in general - if it's soft sand, you are really working everything. The truck doesn't hold it's speed, basicly it's plowing through the sand. A stick or auto works fine, but w/ a stick you better be able to shift quick, else you will never get out of 1st gear.
Off road.. can be done w/ a stick, but it gets tricky. Picture being on a very sharp incline, and having to stop & then start going again. You've gotta know how to use the brake & gas with one foot..
My .02 - I hope to never have to settle for an automatic. I've got 215K on an s-10 blazer w/ the original clutch and tranny.. sticks are more efficient and therefore faster - simpler and therefore tougher.. You've just gotta figure out how to smoke, while playing with the radio, while taking a sip of a drink, while talking on the phone, shifting & steering at the same time.
Jon
As far as driving in the sand in general - if it's soft sand, you are really working everything. The truck doesn't hold it's speed, basicly it's plowing through the sand. A stick or auto works fine, but w/ a stick you better be able to shift quick, else you will never get out of 1st gear.
Off road.. can be done w/ a stick, but it gets tricky. Picture being on a very sharp incline, and having to stop & then start going again. You've gotta know how to use the brake & gas with one foot
.. My .02 - I hope to never have to settle for an automatic. I've got 215K on an s-10 blazer w/ the original clutch and tranny.. sticks are more efficient and therefore faster - simpler and therefore tougher.. You've just gotta figure out how to smoke, while playing with the radio, while taking a sip of a drink, while talking on the phone, shifting & steering at the same time
. Jon
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All of my previous trucks have been standard transmissions and I have run them everywhere from the beach, through the mud, and on the ice. I really enjoy driving them. I like them much better for driving off road in dirt and mud, but shifting in the sand is a real pain. No matter how fast or how many rpms you have it's all lost on a slow shift.
With much dismay, I ordered my new truck with an auto with the beach in mind. Now I'm very happy about it and it was a very good decision. I appreciate it even more now, being that I live and work around roads with a rediculous amount of stop signs. I will never understand the purpose of an All Way Stop, or putting one every 50 yards on a quite road. (but I digress)
I like the control I have with a standard, but the convienence of an auto on the beach is better. As far as being simple, I've had more tranny and clutch problems with standards in my pick-ups (synchros, throw-out bearing, slave cylinder, master cylinder, mechanical linkage) than I had with my automatic cars and suburban. And I've treated them all with equal abuse.
I drove my 69 Buick LeSabre with the techniques of Ace Ventura. It also didn't have heat, so when the windows fogged I looked like him too. LOL
All of my previous trucks have been standard transmissions and I have run them everywhere from the beach, through the mud, and on the ice. I really enjoy driving them. I like them much better for driving off road in dirt and mud, but shifting in the sand is a real pain. No matter how fast or how many rpms you have it's all lost on a slow shift.
With much dismay, I ordered my new truck with an auto with the beach in mind. Now I'm very happy about it and it was a very good decision. I appreciate it even more now, being that I live and work around roads with a rediculous amount of stop signs. I will never understand the purpose of an All Way Stop, or putting one every 50 yards on a quite road. (but I digress)
I like the control I have with a standard, but the convienence of an auto on the beach is better. As far as being simple, I've had more tranny and clutch problems with standards in my pick-ups (synchros, throw-out bearing, slave cylinder, master cylinder, mechanical linkage) than I had with my automatic cars and suburban. And I've treated them all with equal abuse.
I drove my 69 Buick LeSabre with the techniques of Ace Ventura. It also didn't have heat, so when the windows fogged I looked like him too. LOL
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ReelEasy,
Four long years. Do I know you?
186Logic,
That beaut got me into (and out of) plenty of trouble. We WERE a houseful of animals. Looking back, I can't believe we lived in our house. I don't even like my dog to go in the house now when I go up to visit LOL.
Four long years. Do I know you?
186Logic,
That beaut got me into (and out of) plenty of trouble. We WERE a houseful of animals. Looking back, I can't believe we lived in our house. I don't even like my dog to go in the house now when I go up to visit LOL.
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Sentence......lol
Hard to believe that was one of the top rated party schools.
Hood997 is currently a Plattsburgh student. He and his buddies got a hunting/fishing club started at the school. He keeps the fresh water board going with the North Country Ice reports.
Hard to believe that was one of the top rated party schools.
Hood997 is currently a Plattsburgh student. He and his buddies got a hunting/fishing club started at the school. He keeps the fresh water board going with the North Country Ice reports.
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I for one am laughing! But then what fool has to order every truck he owns because I won't drive an auto! Buy a stick and it lasts the life of the truck. Can't rock a truck? If you aired down ther's no need, if you have to you can do it stick without going to Lee Miles afterwards with your auto. Shifting a problem? Not me, starting in soft stuff to 30mph in the same gear with my F250SD with 4.10 gears, what's the problem? You like your feet baked on the floor boards with your auto? My stick also has a tranny cooler. I could have saved at least $3.000 buying an auto off the lot plus 0% instead of my 2.9% but I couldn't do it! Next you'll want auto hubs? You guys wearing waders or nylons? Prospector
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