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Discussion starter · #21 ·
I hate to ask again...

I figured I will throw this one out there again. Mabey someone will know? I'v been trying to research online all day yesterday about ......What is the main diff. between CASTING RODS, CONVENTIONAL RODS AND SPINNING RODS? I'v searched all over the internet about it and I can't seem to get a good definition on the difference. Does anyone out there know?? It would be much help when buying my new rod. I could just ask the guy at the B&T. but I would like to walk into the store already having some idea of what they mean. And thank you all for your posts and opinions.
 
#22 ·
CAsting rod is usually referred to a FW baitcaster rod, or a light SW rod
Conventional, usually referred to in the SW, for use with conventional reels.
Spinning - a rod used with spinning reels.

hoonestly, if you do not know the difference between these types of rods, you will be one of teh guys saying St. Croix sucks, but Cabela's and Tsunami are better. It's too bad people aren't forced to post with their real names and pictures, so if we se them we know to avoid the hammerheads.

For under the bridge fishing, locked drag - DO NOT get any graphite rod or you will break it, especailly if you are used to teh Ugly Sticks which DO NOT break.
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
Billy40

HEY, THANKS MAN. I ACCUALLY JUST FOUND OUT THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN THEM. Spin casting rods are rods designed to hold a spin casting reel, which are normally mounted above the handle. Spin casting rods also have small eyes and a forefinger grip trigger. They are very similar to bait casting rods, to the point where either type of reel may be used on a particular rod.
Spinning rods are made from graphite or fiberglass with a cork or PVC foam handle, and tend to be between 5 and 8.5 feet (1.5 - 2.6 m) in length. Typically, spinning rods have anywhere from 5-8 large-diameter guides arranged along the underside of the rod to help control the line. The eyes decrease in size from the handle to the tip, with the one nearest the handle usually much larger than the rest to allow less friction as the coiled line comes off the reel.
 
#27 ·
TEchnically, you are right - a SPincasting rod has a trigger and teh reel is mounted above teh rod.

However, that was not your question, you asked about: spinning. About casting. And about Conventional.

Now you have 2 choices. You can go back to where you found that info, and erase it from your memory, re-read what I posted it over and over until it sets in. Or you can keep waht you found out memorized, buy yourself a St. Croix LEgend Elite rod, and slap on a Spiderman Reel and take it out fishing.

I'm trying to be nice.
 
#28 ·
BILLY,

Cut the guy some slack man, hes just a newbie trying to learn. You are correct, he didnt ask about the spincasters......but its just semantics. Wasnt there a time when you didnt know much about fishing? Someone must have given you some pointers. This is a place to discuss and share information, not ruffle feathers for not knowing about the gear......
 
#29 ·
If you think that was "ruffling feathers"....you have no idea what I'm capable of.

I gave him 2 legit answers to his questions. And proably the best advice since he does seem to be a newbie and him going out gettinga graphite rod for bridge fishing after using an ugly stick probably isn't teh best idea.

I could have abused him abotu teh spinning reel upside down with teh trigger thing, like people expected me to, but he got a pass. I'm busy fighting elsewhere to be worried abotu hammering someone here.
 
Discussion starter · #31 ·
billy40

hey man, im not trying to get on anyones bad side here. I know your trying to be nice, and not hammering down on me like you want to, but if thats the case....why bother getting involved in my post. I took your legit anwsers and opinion and accepted it only because thats what i asked for(someone to help and answer a question, which you did.) All I did was copy and paste that info after you thinking it would help out other fellow fishman. and if they still dont understand what i have handed-down to them( info/advise.) I will explain it alittle better instead of giving them -a free pass crap- If people dont like the topic---then don't read it..Im not here to get on people's bad side, im here to help and enjoy the sport.
 
#32 ·
Billy40 wrote:
TEchnically, you are right - a SPincasting rod has a trigger and teh reel is mounted above teh rod.

However, that was not your question, you asked about: spinning. About casting. And about Conventional.

Now you have 2 choices. You can go back to where you found that info, and erase it from your memory, re-read what I posted it over and over until it sets in. Or you can keep waht you found out memorized, buy yourself a St. Croix LEgend Elite rod, and slap on a Spiderman Reel and take it out fishing.

I'm trying to be nice.
billy boy, a spincast is a spincast and DOES NOT have a trigger handle. It is the baitcast rod which uses the trigger butt handle grips. The traditional conventional boat rods are triggerless. By the way I felt over the weekend the tiger ugly stick composite BWCL 2200 HEAVY BAITCAST 7 FOOTER rated for 14lb-40lb.line ,,this rod has exceptionally good action,strenght, durability ,quality components and best of all 60.00 with a soft tackle bag rebate! not a bad deal at all ,infact it is a bargain for such a fine composite especially for party boaters. I had to have one so I just bought online today
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Also took leps rec. on those the big gun ultra sharp hooks both #1 and #2 and stren 40# braid, 50lb. leader material for getting my rigs pre-tied for this upcoming season. Lep old buddy, my friend said when I asked about using 80lb or even 60lb. for riggin and he says it is a bit overkill so, me being light as can leader be conscience, will try 50lb. clear for my rigs.. main braid stren 40# test and clear leader mono between 30 and 40 lb test. He recommended 30# as being plenty for the areas they been fishing for years off jersey.
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Lep with all due respect, I will be onboard a tog boat and keeping an eye out for old salty tips too! lets all support each other

This post edited by travelingwaves 02:05 PM 10/17/2007
 
#33 ·
Dont worry about him DOWN4200, he does this in every room. Goes in and acts like a bully and a know-it-all. Good thing he's out fighting the good fight elsewhere and not really lacing into us like hes capable of. I just wonder how someone with almost 8000 posts EVEN HAS TIME TO FISH!

Down,
do some research online, get some product reviews from people who arent obnoxious, and look at a lot of products in person......best bet right there, buy whatever you like.......your the one who is going to have to use it.

good luck
 
Discussion starter · #34 ·
Steamfitter638

you know what man, the way you just put it and explained, is the best answer of all. I am the one who has to fish with it. So whatever feels right to me is obviously going to be right for me(technically speaking.)
 
#35 ·
travelingwaves wrote:

billy boy, a spincast is a spincast and DOES NOT have a trigger handle. It is the baitcast rod which uses the trigger butt handle grips. The traditional conventional boat rods are triggerless.

travellingwaves boy...if you are going to crontradict my intellectual advice, at least have your info correct. Now, unles you are more knowledgeable than a BassPro catalouge, which actualls sells Spincast combos, which DO HAVE a trigger, you can get on your knees and bow down before your majesty, the King Billy 40.

Billy40 is right once again
 
#36 ·
Steamfitter638 wrote:
I just wonder how someone with almost 8000 posts EVEN HAS TIME TO FISH!

Waht does being paid to post while sitting at work, earning money so I am able to take about 120 fishing triper per year, have to do with the number of posts I make?

I am actually a know it all, especially when it comes to rods. WHich is what's great about expelling all that knowledge with my bully technique. This way the hammerheads can be fearful of the GReat One, ignore him, and buy rods in which are NOT RIGHT for a particular application and come back on here saying how much they suck becasue they broke one. Woe is me, lol at you all, bow down before the King.
 
#37 ·
Two things.

1)How the frog did I miss this one?! I mean, the title alone is easily on par with the best of TP's reports.

2)B40, you ok, man? Did you overmedicate, or sumthin'? I'd never had thought you capable of posting a downright mild mannered response after such severe and repeated provocation. Did you finally grow the fugg up, like people have been telling you to for years and years? And years? Teh lol!

This post edited by FishWisher 02:38 PM 10/17/2007
 
#40 ·
Down,my advice is before you buy ,do alot of reading and research but, better to have hands or an experienced friend help outfit you up. You first need to match the equipment you intend to purchase for the intended fish species salt/freshwater also, is it off a boat, a dock, jetty or beach etc. There are alot of different fishing sytems designed specifically to meet or exceed the requirements for at least each situation.If you want to learn how to broaden knowledge and enhance the skills needed for the many gamefish in your area, read here how these experienced old timers give freely their technics used these days. The best advise I can give any novice is that in the realm of fishing equipment, it is wise not to be penny wise dollar foolish. Save and choose the best quality warranty backed products you can afford.
 
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