[B.Attitude]

I understand using out riggers when power drifting ,to set up a slick.And maybe even to slow troll some fresh or live baits but is it a good idea to use them just to separate your baits better while drifting your three baits?Can they be a pain when its time to set the strike after a run off?
paulie

 

[MakoMatt]

Paulie, when you use the riggers to keep the baits apart, DON'T use the rigger release clips, just run your closepin device up the rigger line and use that, this way your line releases when it gets hit no problem.

MakoMatt

 

[MakoMike]

Paulie,
Yes its a good idea to use the riggers to separate baits. No it doesn't interfere with the hook up, in fact it might help, in that it puts some slack in the line so the fish can swallow the bait without feeling any pressure.

 

[MIKE TUNA]

You can also tie a cloths pin on string . This way you can tie the string with cloths pin anywhere on the rail or in the bow or where ever up the side and run a line up through them when drifting if you need to .

MIKE TUNA

 

[620083]

I always us my outriggers to keep line and baits away from each other and never had a problem with a shark hitting. The line always releases from the outrigger release clip. Funny thing, my closest line to the boat never has a sinker or float attach and I do put it on the outrigger and with the motion of the boat it actually receives most of my stikes.

 

[thefishingfreak]

something kool with riggers when sharkin

i like to take my bluefish carcaces and tie them together on some heavy mono then i tie the other end to the outrigger bungy cord holder thingy.then hoist them out on the outrigger till there about a foot or so out of the water. so when the boat rocks back and forth they slap the water and contantly make noise and release odor just make sure you use a release of some kind to keep the sharks that grab it from snapping the rigger
also works good for those little double strike chum sausages

 

[captainlarry84]

kEEPING IT SIMPLE

B/T,
Congratulations on your add responbilblity it life. It is good to see people like yourself take on additional responsibities for the pleasure of others, thank you.
Back to the question. On the drift w/riggers, I have to say N/G. If you want to spread your baits, there are two things you can do; 1- Clip the lines to the bow for more spread 2. Try different size weights to get the bait to lay different in the drift.

 

[B.Attitude]

I have to agree with Capt.Larry,thats the method I use is just the snap clips(clothes pin type).I perfer keeping the riggers out of the way,less to worry about but it was just mentioned to me by a friend about using the riggers.
paulie

 

[MakoMatt]

Paulie, on CaptainLarry's boat he has the upper station so if we need height, we can attached the close pin device to the hand rail up top. As you know I'm a little low to the water, so when I need height, I attach the close pin thing to my rigger line and up she goes, the rigger is in the upright running position, they are NOT down, not in the way.

MakoMatt

 

[leakyrivot]

how about downriggers?

Here's a thought about using downriggers, minus the ballons, for setting bait depths. While on the drift via wind, the bait will trail behind, allowing you to place it under the chum slick, at the desired depth. Downriggers create some noisy disturbance too.

Jon

 

[Capthookem]

Jon,
Why not just use sinkers to get the bait down? Too much stuff in the water with downriggers..Sooner or later, it will cost you a fish. Just my opinion.

Capt. H

 

[MakoMike]

Guys,
IMHO downriggers just add too much more stuff in the water. We tried it once, to hang a deep chumpot over the side. It did that well, but cost us a big fish when the line wrapped around the downrigger cable. I'll stick with the sinkers to get the baits down.

 

[paulh]

i make up a few of the black perko clips, with a 1-2 foot piece of heavy mono (150-200 lb) crimped onto the clip "eyes".

these can be moved around the boat easily by looping them to cleats, bow rail, etc. this clips do not adjust for tension but are foolproof and last forever. by running the line through the clip at a 45 deg angle you get just enough tension to hold the line where you need to.

these setups can be re-deployed as flat line clips as well. cheap, easy, foolproof, etc. my 2 cents.

 

[captainlarry84]

Traffic in the Slick

To much always seems to be a problem. I like to keep my slick clean and empty. Just chum, and lots of it and three baits. 90, 30, 15 feet. One chum bag. Nothing in the water to get in the way. On those slow days everyone likes to help by trying new things, which of course means putting more stuff in the slick.
Every real big shark that we have caught came in hot & heavy and always lands on the closest bait. Fast pick and off to the races. On two of the larger thresher the pick was so fast that we almost got spooled before getting the boat going. Both those fish headed straight into the other baits. We had enough trouble just getting the other lines cleared in time without a tangle.
I think it is great when big fish take the deep far one. He is already away from the other lines and you have time to clear everything.
Beware of a crowed infield area, I have lost some nice ones in the early years with to much traffic close to the boat.

(This post edited by captainlarry84 on 02/12/2003)

 

[Makoman16]

Captain Larry?

Hello sir. I noticed that you gave specific depths that you fish your baits ~ 90, 30, & 15. Do you fish these depths at all times of the sharking season?

I have read that it doesn't pay to fish "deep" in the late Spring (May ~ Early June) because the water below the thermocline is way too cold. Therefore, fishing those deep baits would be a waste of time.

I fish 15, 30, and 45 in the late Spring and 15, 50, 90 throughout the summer ~ occasionally going deeper if I pick-up the thermocline deeper in the heat of the summer. I like to place a bait on both sides of the thermocline if possible.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks

 

[captainlarry84]

Sorry for the late response

The answer is yes, I always fish my baits that way. One above, one in and one below the thermocline. My logic is that if a hot fish comes in and you have two baits in the same plan he will get both which = a tangle via broken line lost fish. If the fish two baits. More rods don't increase your odds they just make problems. The really good fish always come in hot and before you know it they grab two baits.
Keep your slick simple and clean, you may catch the little ones but when you get a great fish you don't want him running though a lot of objects.

(This post edited by captainlarry84 on 02/23/2003)

(This post edited by captainlarry84 on 02/23/2003)

 

[fishologist II]

what I do

I used to go out with my 23 footer,equipped with outriggers.I put my middle bait on an o/r clip,the o/r in vertical position,a hit,the o/r pole snapped.
Now I run a 29 ' boat,no riggers.I have an Aftco roller troller fastened to the bow rail,this is where my deep line gets pinned,with enough tension on it to hold the bait securely,but one quick pull by me,frees it for retrieval.
Hey Capt Larry.
I have attended a bunch of your seminars,hope to attend more, and have learned loads of info.Thanks for your sharing.
Pete

 

[captainlarry84]

Thanks

Pete,
Thanks for the kind words, our club will be planning some opened clinics this year at our club property.