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I recently looked at two new Seaswirl Striper I/Os - the 23 and the 26 walkarounds - and was very impressed with both quality and price. Does anyone out there have any experience with this make of boat? I'm looking to trade up from my older Renken and want something that's a bit better put together and handles better in a hard chop. Any info would be much appreciated. Thanks
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They give you a lot for the money but they are a liitle light. They also went to a intergrated transom which means you lose ****pit space but still counts towards your LOA. They also have a moulded pupit which also counts towards the LOA. So lets see 2ft for the transom and 18" for the pulpit = 3 1/2 ft off the boat, so a 26 is really a 22 1/2. You pay for that when docking and bottom painting by the way.
I personally have nothing bad to say about the boat except for the way all the boats are going towards that style.
That is why I don't do the shows anymore. I got a Parker instead. True 23 or 25. I have 80 square feet of ****pit space on a 23 Parker SC. Yes it is more money but I have also been caught in 8 ft seas with it a didn't have a problem.;)

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I have a 21ft Striper. In the four years that I have had the boat I have had no problems with it. I have had some problems with the engine, which is a Johnson, but since you are looking at an I/O, you should be fine. I fish a lot, and the boat has held up very well.
 

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Bassman.
Your boat was when they had the traditional transom which in my opinion is a great boat.;) I bet you have more ****pit space in your 21 then in the new 23 or even close to the 26. The 26 may have more but it aslso has a wider beam. I just which they didn't do that to the boat. It is the industry's way of pushing you up in size.
They new when I first saw them I did not like what they did and I had many previous owners of S/S look at new models and just walk away. It is a shame what they did to that boat. And that is why I don't do them anymore.

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Guys, I see what you mean about the transom. It still seems to be a better setup than fishing your way around protruding outboards. That configuration wouldn't be a problem for me. I guess every style is something of a compromise. The ****pit space isn't huge, but still much better than in my Renken, where the V-6 I/O engine box takes up a great deal of room. What I really would like to know about is the performance of the boat when things get snotty outside. I don't know what the deadrise on the Renken is, but it ain't enough for me. The boat is good in relatively calm water, but pounds so much in a 2-3ft chop that I have to throttle back to about 15 MPH or less to keep from drowning in spray or having the fillings shaken out of my teeth! Thanks for the info so far - can anyone add to the discussion about performance and durability? Thanks.
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I have the 2000 23 walkaround-no real complaints-Great Oak stands by their product-However the boat is a little light and rides high in the water.Trim tabs are standard and you will need them.Thats the key in the tough stuff -you have to play the trim tabs
 

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I have a 21 ft 95 model striper. A very solid boat. I've had it for two years now with no complaints. If I was buying a new boat now I would sereously consider a four stroke (no comparison as far as economy and quiet operation).
 

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I have a 2000 21' w/a and cannot complain about the boat. As of today I have truly enjoyed the boat. Like others mentioned Great Oak has been great with their commitment of standing by their product. As far as the ride is concerned, as IKYLKINDY mentioned, it rides good yet in the chop the tabs come in very handy.
 

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The reason the boat is light is beacuse of the fiberglass stringer system. This sysyem will increase speed and fuel consumption in good conditions. If your are in a good chop you will have to trim the boat.
I know about Great Oak and the way they do stand behind there product and they are preety reliable people and a family owned dealership.
Me personnally I just do not like what they did to the boat. I would hope that you just understand my point of view of what all the boat lines are doing to get you into a larger boat.
First off you never land a fish in the rear of a boat or should you worry about getting the line around the engine. That is why I say ****pit space is a must for a boat that you are going to fish. Anything that is moulded into the boat counts towards your LOA. As stated earlier take a look at the transom and the moulded in pupit. That adds up to 3 1/2 ft for your LOA. I looked at the new 21 compared to the older 21's and hands down the older ones have more room.
I am a tradional type guy who does not like what the entire industry is doing, fanagling you into spending more money for a EURO design that provides nothing more then cosmetics for the look of the boat. This is not just S/S but look at all of them.
I am glad that you all are satisfied with your boats and I hold no hard feeling towards G/O but I guess they got there nose a liitle out of joint when I bought the Parker.

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I have a 26' Walkaround I/O. Pretty much the same thing your looking at. I've had no complaints yet. It handles pretty well in the rough seas. I had a small problem with the freshwater washdown, But Great Oaks sent someone right to my dock who took care of everything. I highly recommend them and their product. I bought my boat at the same time as a friend. He bought a sea sport. he's had nothing but problems. he hates it. he has more ****pit room than me but I dont have the headache he has. Feel free to PM me with any questions. There was a lot of guys on this board that helped me so I'd love to return he favor.
 

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I am a tradional type guy who does not like what the entire industry is doing, fanagling you into spending more money for a EURO design that provides nothing more then cosmetics for the look of the boat.

I totally agree with Baywatch. It is a total shame what many of these manufacturers are doing to these boat designs.

The new 21 WA's are listed as 21.5 LOA. But even with the extra 6 inches, the 1999 and prior year 21 WA's had a ****pit that looks as if they had at least ten more square feet (and they were so much more fishable).

The fiberglass stringers do make these modern boats a little too light for their size. The bonus is more speed and better fuel consumption. The drawback is a more uncomfortable ride than boats of the same size in higher price ranges.

The packages are sweet. They are a step up from your Renken but are often not as good as the same size boats that are selling for $20,000 to $40,000 more.

As Baywatch pointed out, the 23 WA model is more like a true 21 footer and the 26 WA model is more like a true 24 footer. If you think of them in this manner, you'll be able to make a much more logical and calculated buying decision.

Of course, like anything else, they'll be some boaters who tell you that they love them and there will be others who think the SeaSwirls are a total piece of garbage.

That's why the best thing you can do is take one out for a test ride. The folks at Great Oak Marine will be glad to take you down to the Kings Park Bluff or the Port Jeff boat ramp and launch one for you to demo. Only you know what you'll be satisfied with for your $$.
 

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I know for a fact that the owners of G/O put boats in the water right after the Tobay show, the only problem is what they put in. Mostly outbords in the w/a and c/c console series. I did a few demos and I am pretty sure that if you are serious they will take you out. It is usally out of Port Jefferson. But be prepared to leave a deposit. Or if you put a deposit on one make sure that the deal is subject to sea trial and have it in writting on your reciept as that. This way your covered if you do not like the ride.;)

Good luck with them they are nice people and if you are going to Tobay ask for Richie and tell him Bill M sent you.

Richie is the rigger in the yard and probably the hardest worker they have. He only sells boats at the shows and he us very knowlegable about the boat, the engines and the capcities of the boat you are looking at.

Good luck,

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F.W.I.W., if I were buying a new fishing boat around that size, I think I'd get a Dusky. I have fished them in Florida, they are good boats. I have toured thier factory in Dania Beach FL and was very impressed with their operation. These are not production boats, each hull is built to order, all hand laid glass, very, very solid boats, much the way a lot of the better New England boats are built. They pack a lot of value for your dollar too. You can visit them @ www.dusky.com
 

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Stripper

This year I purchased a 23 ft center consol stripper with a 200 Evenrude fuel injected engin.
I love it. Handles great, very quick, very sea worthy, and great on gas.Lots of fishing room. The boat was all it was built up to be.

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Baywatch, I agree. I have a 1997 2150 with a 150 Johnson. The boat can take the snot pretty good. I regularly fish Plum Island & have never had a problem. The older boat sdefinetly have more ****pit area. when I bought mine the 2100 was just coming out so I had a choice between the 2.When you put them side by side the 2150 had a couple of feet more space.As for the boat being lite, not so. This boat weighs nearly 4000 lbs with hard top & engine.Only 1 time had engine problem which turned out to be the ignition cut off switch (cuts off 3 cyl when shifting for a split second)replaced last year & still going strong.
 

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2100 striper w/a-1996

I owned this boat for 5 years-cheap price is the best feature on this boat.
Overall not too bad construction except-lots of screws would fall out. The biggest problem was the scuppers were below waterline and the deck was always wet. These boats are light and they definetly pound use the tabs and go slow.
They also have reverse chines which helps economy but causes more POUNDING!
 

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i own a 1998 23' walkaround, i have had no problems with the boat and the actual loa is 24.5'. The only thing i would like to see changed is the scuppers they are low and the ****pit drains slowly when you are standing still.
 
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