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Well I did some reasearch on seal hunting and fishing methods. It turns out that its fairly easy to do. I also found out that seals are not endangered at all. There are certain species that are protected, even from hunting, but they are not endangered. The animals are only ruthlessly protected here in the US by the "Treehuggers" I've found out that the best way to hunt then is to sneak up on them and club them with a long handled gaff. You could shoot them with a rilfe, but that wouldn't be prudent on the south shore. As I continue my research I'll post the updates...

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Uh, how long do they mess up the fishing? For our pleasure we will kill Seals, who are feeding to survive. SOmething just doesn't fit there.

When was teh last time a Seal ruined your fishing on a 4 foot sheet of Ice? If anything, the Seals should be killing humans for stealing their food.
 

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These animals are just trying to survive by eating. I dont realy think this constitutes clubing them to death because they are compeating with our recreation. Its not like you cant go to the supermarket and buy fish alot cheaper then the expence incurred by going fishing.Dont get me wrong I am far from being a "tree hugger" If you were harvesting the seals for food or along those lines it would be another story but for us to brutaly butcher them because they are in our way, in my opinion is unjustified.
Tight lines.
 

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I'm assuming everyone saw the latest in the NF that addresses seal hunting in Newfoundland. These guys do some serious killing, however it's way down from what it once was. I'm not commenting on the practice, just pointing out the article.
 

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thats is the cruelest thing i have ever seen those seals are only trying to survive i would rather catch no fish then have to kill seals to keep the fish around for us, that the stupidest picture i have ever seen posted on here
 

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No I did not see the article in NF. I did not even know about the NF. Is it a good publication, how do I get a copy?

Everyone

You all said what I was going to pretty much get to....Thanks! I now know I am not in the corner alone.
 

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Crossbow works too.......Cavanaugh is the ex-2nd capt of the Excel

Two Men, Charter Company Charged In Sea Lion Shooting

Men Allegedly Shot Arrow Through Neck Of Sea Lion Pup

Two men and a San Diego-based sportfishing company were charged Thursday with firing an arrow through the neck of a 5-month-old sea lion.

Matthew Lyon, 38, of Morro Bay and Anthony Hill, 18, of San Diego were charged with violating the federal Marine Mammal Protection Act in a criminal information filed in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles. The charge, a misdemeanor, carries a maximum
penalty of one year in prison and a $100,000 fine.

Prosecutors also charged a San Diego-based charter vessel, Pacific Queen, and the ship's owner, Cavanaugh Sportfishing Inc. The vessel and its owner have agreed to plead guilty and pay a fine.

Owner Bill Cavanaugh said he had no involvement in the shooting but pleaded guilty to get the matter behind him and protect his business from mounting legal bills.

Hill, a member of the 88-foot Pacific Queen's crew, intentionally hooked a 5-month-old female sea lion pup on Nov. 4, 2002, with a deep-sea fishing rod that had been baited with sardines,
prosecutors said.

Hill reeled the pup to the stern of a nearby fishing vessel, Billy Boy. Lyon, who sells bait on the Billy Boy, fired an arrow from a crossbow into the pup's neck.

The young sea lion survived. Tourists visiting Morro Bay found the pup two days later with the yellow bolt protruding from her neck.

The pup, nicknamed "Arrow," was rehabilitated by volunteers from the Marine Mammal Center, who brought her to the center's hospital in the Marin Headlands.

Arrow was treated at the center and released three weeks later. She was found a month later, weak and thin, on a pier in Monterey Bay. Workers spent another month nursing her back to health before she was released again in February.

Jennifer Witherspoon, a center spokeswoman, said she was thrilled federal prosecutors had decided to press charges.

"It sends out the message that there are consequences for harming a marine mammal," she said. "I don't think many people in the public know sea lions are being killed and made to suffer needlessly."

Of the 500 California sea lions brought to the center each year, about 10 percent have suffered gunshot wounds , Witherspoon said.

She said there have been incidents of fishermen stuffing a bomb into a fish that explodes when it is fed to a sea lion. Center volunteers had to euthanize a male sea lion earlier this year because of injuries believed to be caused by a bomb, Witherspoon said.

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yeah too bad they are too smart to take a baited hook.then you can practice a new blood sport.you would get plenty of fillets, and you wouldn't have to help extinct the rest of the flounders that are left.i hear they taste pretty good,ask an eskimo. seal blubber is a delicacy with plenty of vitamin c.the government can set a minimum size limit and a creel limit and you guys can go to town.you can hold your dead bloody seal up for pictures and you can brag to all your friends.think about it.
 

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I have nothing against seals...

Just as all of you have nothing against the fish you kill. In fact most animals that are consumed are "knocked" unconscious and are still twitching as they go to be bled and skinned and eventually cut into pieces and wraped/weighed and placed in Stop-N-Shop refrigerated meat cases.

I would just like to go seal hunting, for the experience. As an avid deer, antelope and elk hunter I would like to give it a try. I wouldn't be wasting the animal either, since I would use the pelt to make nice warm boot liners and other stuff, and the meat will be fed to my dogs, which are fed raw meat exclusively. I wouldn't kill a seal if I wouldn't be utilizing it to its fullest. I also don't see an issue with it, since seals are NOT endangered animals.

- Capt. Fred

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I can understand your points about the seals, CAPT.XXX - I wouldn't badmouth it, although I could never kill one. I wouldn't make a good hunter either, for the same reasons.

I totally agree with your point about the meat. If they took it all away - beef, pork, chicken - I wouldn't miss it all that much.(I never touch animal organs either)

I could, and for periods do - eat fish every day......just finishing some October broiled bass now :)
 

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I'm a hunter, and a fisherman but found that your picture serves no purpose on this website. Hunting and fishing cannot be compared. I would catergorize hunting a seal in the same group as target practice or hunting antelope in Africa. Any moron with a gun can do it. I really think with all the attacks by Peta that this post should be deleted by the moderator. Capt XXX, create your own hunting website if you feel the need to post such topics. Killing seals will not help you catch more fish.
 

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Well put Botumfeder!

My wife and I try to mostly consume the fish and venison which I catch. If we do eat meat it is usually of the "free-range" variety w/o hormones.

FrankB,

Hunting and fising are the same. Think about it... You go out and seek your quarry you catch it and kill it! I just don't see how target practice has anything to do with any of this ???

Anyway, back to the seal hunting -- I still don't understand why fellow Nor'east members are all in an up-roar over it?

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