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Mr. Venker makes an aweful lot of sense here. Doesn't he?

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Remember Cod?
TIDE - May/June 2008
By Ted Venker

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The tragic story of how cod traveled a path from almost limitless abundance to complete decimation is well-documented in the book, ?Cod? by Mark Kurlansky. In fact, ?Cod? should be required reading for anyone interested in the management of fish today, as there is no clearer demonstration that focusing on anything other than the health of the resource is the first step to ensuring its demise.

There will, of course, be distinct differences between cod and any other fish species that would make direct comparisons impossible. However, present-day fishery managers would likely recognize some of the arguments and circumstances that were cited to allow an already ailing cod stock to descend completely into obscurity in the latter half of the 20th century.

Among the fatal mistakes was slow recognition of the impact of technology, an avowed distrust of the science showing stock declines, over-emphasis on tradition and the ?sanctity? of coastal fishing communities, and a bureaucratic tendency to cave in to political pressure to avoid infuriating a vocal sector of special interests with a financial stake in the fishery.

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Will we allow history to repeat itself? Past results instill no confidence that we will have the wisdom to prevent it, but awareness is the first step. Spend a few hours reading ?Cod? and see if anything sounds familiar the next time you encounter a debate in a newspaper article or on the Internet over the need for modern fisheries management to be more ?flexible.?

The fish that changed human history may very well hold the key to changing the future of how we manage our marine resources. We can?t afford to ignore its history.

More:
http://www.tidewise.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=73:remember-cod&catid=35:General
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Small wonder why recreational and commercial fishermen on the NEFMC who help manage cod, have spoken out against "Flexibility" legislation.

Which reminds me, anyone hear word on a Senate version of Congressmen Pallone's HR 5425.

Anyone?

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Mike F.
 

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it's 20,000 pounds or nothing

of cod that is...they can't catch 800#'s, it just doesn't work.

They tow until they hit them, but, when they do hit them, by the time they haul back...it's too late.

Hey- the crabs love it.
 

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The Dogfish love it too! I constantly hear "Why are there so many Dogfish?" they get fed a smorgasbord everytime a Dragger comes through, thats why..... Draggers = Buffalo Hunters..... Hook and Line is the only sustainable Cod Fishery.
 

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I'm reading Kurlansky's book now. When Jacques Cartier found the mouth of the St. Lawrence River in 1534 and claimed it for France, he also found 1,000 Basque fishing vessels working the cod. No one had ever known they were there, and they didn't tell anyone.

The Basque's had never claimed Newfoundland for themselves because they didn't want anyone to know how good the fishing was there.
 

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I think you can blame the Gov't for it. When they started the 200mi limit they also gave the boats low interest loans to re-tool and upgrade their gear. By the time they realized that they upgraded so well they were mauling the fish they put restrictions on the same people they told to gear-up. And then shut them down and boat their boats from them.

Wait until they get their fingers on healthcare, you can expect to die shortly thereafter.
 

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Also get Doryman's Reflection or Reflections of a Doryman, can't remember. He talks about the transition from set lining and hand lining to dragging and the depletion of the fishery. As good a read as Cod if you're into it
 

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I don't want to open a can of worms here, but what happened here in the 70's with the depletion of the cod was disgusting, I enjoy reading books like that but for the gov't to allow that was a crime..

My own personal story, and I'm sure this will p.o. some people, fishing out of Hyannis oh about 1992 I guess, 3 days in a row,..1st two days slaughter fishing 6 charter boats fishing the same edge, all hook and line, 3rd day there were 2 gillnet boats with their gear spread over the same edge, we got there as they hauled in so they must have set the previous afternoon....talk about depletion of cod...
 

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I've read Cod and a bunch of other books marking the declines of various fisheries. I'd recommend "the End of the Line" by Charles Clover - it provides the history but also a little hope at the end with examples of successful management policies.
 

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please dont take this the wrong way,
but you sound like you just found that book "Cod"shame on you,my copy is yellow and fallingg apart at the seams.any time you want to read about a good thing gone bad read abot the basques fishing for hundreds of years and then everyone coming in to undo a good thing.also read about govenment hiding larger issues(slavery).You'll get to that soon JPD. all sounds too **** familiar
 

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During the winter months I do a lot of reading. I buy used books from amazon.com sometimes for next to nothing. I bought an autographed copy of Perfect Storm by Sebastion Junger for 1 penny + shipping! Try it. Also can make a wish list and buy them when you get around to it. I'm going to add "song for the blue ocean" right now
 

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save your money, brena...

dhoperos wrote:
if you haven't read it, give "song for the blue ocean" some time.

You do realize that Carl Safina is one of the biggest anti-fishing activists of all time, right? Talk about a guy with an agenda! I think that anything he writes is worthless, but each to his own...

A little side note about Safina- he was one of the biggest champions of the failed 'two stock theory' in bluefin management. He and other people bent on shutting down bluefin fishing years back developed this theory which flew in the face of all past tagging data and common sense. Eventhough it was well known that tuna crossed the atlantic, they wanted to shut down the US bluefin fishery and so they lobbied and lobbied until they got their theory accepted. That theory has been disastrous and led not only to 20 years of cuts in the US, but more importantly, it gave the rest of ICCAT the rationale to catch more and more and more and because they were catching "eastern" fish the US could not do anything about it.

These people wanted to shut us down so bad that they pushed through a bogus theory that has done more damage to bluefin stocks than any rule before it or since. Even though tagging data since has shown how wrong the theory is, they did such a good job lobbying that the rule has been deeply embedded and has been impossible to get rid of. In other words, Safina and his cronies screwed both the fish and the fishermen.

But go ahead and read his book and listen to his BS...

This post edited by twofinbluna 02:57 AM 06/30/2008
 

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Brena-

If you want a couple (good) books on fishing NOT written by anti-fishing people like Safina, here are a couple suggestions-

-The Doryman's Reflection by Paul Molyneaux
-Working on the Edge by Spike Walker
-The Finest Kind by Kim Bartlett





This post edited by twofinbluna 03:27 AM 06/30/2008
 

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Some ten-year old background on Dr. Safina

it's here. The "save a swordfish" campaign was one of the first examples of Pew-funded piling on. You're all familiar with those more recent. I guess he, along with fellow Pew/Seaweb spokesperson Sylvia Earle, was one of the first scientist-advocates. It's been downhill ever science.

After Dr. Safina was named a Pew Fellow, he was also awarded a McArthur grant - a good indication of why beating up on fishermen has become so popular with a handful of marine researchers.

This post edited by NilsS 08:04 AM 06/30/2008
 
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