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I'm in the process of upgrading electronics my 25' Parker SC...and looking to add a radar and chart plotter. Due to limited space, I am taking a close look at the radar/chartplotter combo units from Raymarine (R70RC), Furuno (NavNet 1722), and JRC (1800). Raymarine's unit is far more expensive than the other two (is it worth it??) Any feedback on any of these units or overall experience with these mfg. would be EXTREMELY helpful in making my decision.
 

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I know the Raymarine can be a little pricey, but my experience with them has been all good. They have a great web site for ques/ans. and they respond fast.I've even called them while at sea,and they were very helpful. I don't have a radar, but all my electronics are Ray.
 

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Hi Parker 25,
I have a 23 Parker SC that is even more limited with space to mounta unit. What I did if you don't mind flush mounts is move the 2 gauges in front of the helm up to the top right and left hand corners. That opened up enough space to put a flush mount in. I put a Norhtstar 952 WAAS system in last year and it really nice to have it right in front of you. Just a thought.:)

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Hey Parker 25,

I'm getting a new boat and had the same issue my dealer wants me to get the Raytheon70 Radar and the760 combo GPS/MAP/FF as it fits the best and is in his opinion a better unit. In any event, I went to the Raytheon web site to read up on it and they have a link to th PowerboatReports (like consumer reports for boats) and before you do anything read this extensive report and testing Raytheon came out #1.
 

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Parker 25-

I recently ordered all the electronics for my new boat. Before making my decision, I did all the internet research, ordered all the brochures, went to all the shows, drove the salespeople at the big marine stores (you know who they are, I won't name them-especially since they really are not "up" on the products they sell), read all the reviews and product tests, etc.

After doing this,my choice was between Furuno and Raymarine. JRC dropped out because they did not offer color, and SIMRAD was out of my budget completely!

I then polled a number of my friends who have electronics.They include one current and one former charter boat captain, as well as some party boat captains that I am friendly with or worked for. Several are private boat owners who do all types of fishing.

When it comes to reading test results, comparisons and the like, you will rarely see a bad review since most publications and websites generate revenue by selling advertising. So most can ill afford to give a a negative review at the chance of losing revenue. I would have loved to see reviews on marine electronics done by JD Powers and Associates, but they only review boats. COnsumer Reports has reviewed some marine products, but not as many as you and I would like to see.

Research revealed that Raymarine costs more. Although each manufacturer has different features with "catchy" names, they are all offering basically the same thing. Raymarine came into being only a couple of years ago. The managing partners decided to buy out their interests in the marine technology division of Raytheon and go their own way.You can no longer say that it must be good if they manufacture missile guidance systems for the government, since RAYMARINE does not.

In doing so, they set up higher MSRP's for reasons that are not clear. The major guts of the older Raytheon's were manufactured by JRC, and their basic designs are still in use in the RAYMARINE technology. The tecnology os sending and receiving a radar signal has not changed much over the years. The way that results can be displayed and the ability to interface with other components has become more flexible.

I feel that the RAYMARINE machines are great units, that produce some nice displays, graphics and performance. But, I PERSONALLY, did not see any features that justified the increased $$$ as compared to FURUNO.

FURUNO, on the other hand, was the RADAR unit of choice on all the party and charter boats belonging to the owners I polled. Two of the Private boat owners had Rays. One was an older Raytheon stand alone radar, the other was a RL 70C. They were both happy with the perfomance! But so were all the Furuno owners.

As far as support, which is very important, all the Furuno owners had very few problems and got excellent support including one who had to send his unit back under warranty. He got it back with a defective board replaced in 72 hours ( he had to pay for the express shipping)! I myself have called the tech department 4 times with questions ( I don't own a FURUNO, yet!). Each time I got a HUMAN on the other line, had a short wait only once, and got some real courteous and informative responses each time. I don't think support will be an issue.

At the 2001 NMEA show (National Marine Electronics Association, the standards organization) FURUNO won seven awards. These awards are voted on by the professionals who are engaged in the standard setting, engineering, development and marketing of marine electronics.FURUNO won the BEST IN SHOW for the NAVNET technology, best RECREATIONAL RADAR, best COMMERCIAL RADAR, best SONAR,best RECREATIUONAL FISH FINDER,best COMMERCIAL FISH FINDER and best CONSOLE GMDSS unit. But even more impressive is that these and similar awards were won by FURUNO 9 years in a row!

After digesting the above, I ordered the FURUNO 1833C NAVNAT for my boat.

Just keep in mind that every individual is going to have their inherent likes and dislikes, but it never hurts to keep an open mind to make an informed decision.

Hope this helps. Great fishing this season!


TSLTW
 

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Thanks for all the feedback and information. Mad Mahi, you certainly confirmed what I was thinking in regards to the Raymarine prices.....aewsome unit but not sure if it is worth 50% more than the comparable Furuno unit. Mad Mahi....where did you end up purchasing your unit?? Thanks again for all the great feedback!!!

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I get a personal deal through a wholesaler. If not for that, I would have gotten a written quote from Consumer Marine Electronics and then gone to a local West Marine or BOAT US and have them beat it!

BTW- If you are looking at utilizing the RADAR/Chart Overlay feature you need to have a flux gate (electronic) compass in the network. Other wise,direction-wise, the radar will not match to the corresponding chart it overlays during drifting or real low speed motion. The one offered by Furuno is almost $600.00 MSRP, but other brands will work if they have the NMEA interface. I have seen several for under $250 (retail). The GPS function will correctly feed directional data to the radar when underway at slow trolling speeds or faster. It's just the drifting and real slow motion progress that gets skewed.

I opted for the C-MAP NT card. I like the detail and the availability!

Good luck!

TSLTW

This message was edited by Mad Mahi on 2-25-02 @ 1:26 PM
 

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I am paying $3803.99 which is the cost of the 1832c radar/plotter, $519.40 for the Network Sounder, $112.00 for the furuno GPS antenna, $249.50 for the Hi-Performance Thru hull Tri-ducer and $136.59 for the c-map card.

Hope this helps.



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I too just purchased the 1732C. After all my research and recommendations I went with Furuno also. I opted for Navionics though. Total price: $3285.00, that's including the Navionics card, gps ant. and dome post with the anchor light.

I'm picking it up this weekend!!
 

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I posted previous reports about NY Marine Elec. a while ago.
He is one of the few people around that is an autherized dealer for Furuno and Norhtstar. I bought evrything from him last year for my new Parker. Northstar 952,Waas, FCV600 F/F by Furuno,Interpid radio that interfaces with GPS, Furuno 4 kw radar with CRT display. I saved a ton compared to all the otheres including Consumers. I did about 2-3 months research on all items. I also got a digital antenna for the radio. He also didthe installtion. He is a little pricey on onstallation but like I said he is a dealer. I had a problem with my radar display and he had it fixed at NO COST!! Not even shipping.
I would recomend that you get there before price increases in March.
Say hello to Jim and tell him Bill M with the Parker said hello.

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Two seasons ago I purchased the radar/chartplotter raymarine combo for my 22' Grady White. Later that season, I bought the color GPS Garmin chartplotter. Both instruments are excellent, however, the split radar chartplotter screen is simply too small for me. I do a lot of nite boating, also western LI Sound, and use my instrumnts quite a bit. If I had to do it again, I would buy a separate radar and a separate chartplotter.
 

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Melfluke is right, not only size of the screen is compromized but if you lose one part it will effect the other side of the machine also. Combo units are OK for space savers but the idea of losing my GPS because something might be wrong with the transducer scares me a little. That is why I went with individual units. I don't know if that is true with Raytheon Equipment but I know that how it works with Lowrance,

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I had a lot of people tell me the same thing...if you're unit goes out, you loose everything....but I have a handheld gps & 2 digital depths onboard, so I would really only be loosing the radar....which I couldn't afford to have 2 of anyway!!

As far as the display goes, I agree it is a little small....especially when you split the screen, but I simply don't have the room for anything bigger, or for 2 displays!
 
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