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Having a hard time here guys. Im thinking this is the first time that I actually DONT want to vote. I feel there is no one to vote for. Everyone is giving me flack saying well you have to vote its your patriotic duty bla bla bla...but I feel its better to make no decision rather than making a bad decision just for the sake of making a choice. I know a lot of you guys are die hard conservatives on here but and your first reaction is to bash me (the liberal) but...I was wondering if anyone feels the same? I mean anyone who is somewhat intelligent can see there is no good choice.

This post edited by BLUEFISH9 10:01 AM 01/22/2008
 

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It ain't over 'till its over. But as of the moment I have to agree. If the GOP nominates McCain, I just might join you on the sidelines.

So if it's a McCain vs. Hillary or OB you're simply going to take a pass & potentially allow Hillary or OB to take the Whitehouse unchallenged?
 

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wader wrote:
mm wrote:
It ain't over 'till its over. But as of the moment I have to agree. If the GOP nominates McCain, I just might join you on the sidelines.

So if it's a McCain vs. Hillary or OB you're simply going to take a pass & potentially allow Hillary or OB to take the Whitehouse unchallenged?

Very possibly. I don't see a big difference between McCain and either Hussein or her thighness, Any one of them is likely to be a disaster for the country. Write-ins are a waste of time in presidential elections.
 

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her thighness?

LOL. u definetely listen to MARK LEVIN radio show...That guy is the funniest personality on the radio...


He calls: MSNBC - MSLSD

HILLARY- her thighness

Harball - screwball with Chris Matthews

And there are dozens and dozens of FANTASTIC lines.
 

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As a conservative I do agree there is a lack of quality candidates. But in looking at who can/will best lead the country I will throw my vote Rudy's way. I disagree with his stance on many issues but I believe he will be an able leader. He proved his worth in turning New York City around. He led well in a time of crisis and I believe he will be a staunch defender of our country. That being said I will waste my vote ,as I have every Presidential election year, on whoever the Republican Party nominate. Wastefull in that I can't see any Republican carrying the state. I don't believe her thighness or obama are capable or willing to be able leaders. I would prefer our country does not keep heading towards becoming a european , socialist type nation. I also think history will judge President Bush to be one of the better Presidents our nation has had. My 2 cents.
 

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As a conservative I do agree there is a lack of quality candidates. But in looking at who can/will best lead the country I will throw my vote Rudy's way. I disagree with his stance on many issues but I believe he will be an able leader. He proved his worth in turning New York City around. He led well in a time of crisis and I believe he will be a staunch defender of our country. That being said I will waste my vote ,as I have every Presidential election year, on whoever the Republican Party nominate. Wastefull in that I can't see any Republican carrying the state. I don't believe her thighness or obama are capable or willing to be able leaders. I would prefer our country does not keep heading towards becoming a european , socialist type nation. I also think history will judge President Bush to be one of the better Presidents our nation has had. My 2 cents.

Rudy says the right words, but I just don't trust him. After his personal betrayals and his promoting his buddies (kerick) I'm not sure that I trust him to hold the reins.
 

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wader wrote:
mm wrote:
It ain't over 'till its over. But as of the moment I have to agree. If the GOP nominates McCain, I just might join you on the sidelines.

So if it's a McCain vs. Hillary or OB you're simply going to take a pass & potentially allow Hillary or OB to take the Whitehouse unchallenged?

So your implying (given the lack of quality candidates) that if in doubt I should just put up a list and throw darts?
 

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So your implying (given the lack of quality candidates) that if in doubt I should just put up a list and throw darts?

No ? but I?m imploring you not to roll over & play dead either.

If you?re looking for the perfect candidate that ain?t gonna happen. In a 2 party system it rarely does.
You need to choose the candidate that at least represents some of your views.
The one that you feel more comfortable with running the country & support him or her. Especially if you are adamantly opposed to one candidate & feel no way, no how, over my dead body do you want that individual sitting in the Whitehouse determining your future.

It?s like going into a restaurant knowing you really want Veal Parmigianino & finding that they only have Eggplant on the menu. .
You really wanted veal, but you?re still hungry & well the eggplant does have some of what you?re looking for. It?s not your first choice - so you choose that.

There are people dying every day for the right to choose their leaders.
We fought a War of Independence for that right.
Here it is given to us & what? Only 40% of the people actually decide to participate?

Why?
It was raining.
I didn?t know enough about who was running.
I didn?t like anyone that was running.

Sure you also have a right not to participate.

I would surely hope that you are then willing to forgo any right to complain about the choices being made or the direction the country is headed in.
Because in my opinion you forfeited that right when you decided to ?sit on the sidelines? & allow someone else to decide who was to be your President.

I don?t understand why you would want to sit on the sidelines & let someone else make your choices for you? Don?t you think you should at least put your two cents in regardless of the election outcome?
To me ? if you refuse to vote you are saying you really don?t care.

Sure it maybe the ?lesser of two evils syndrome? . Most times it is. But you need to choose or someone else is going to do it for you.

Do you not want to vote out of fear that you?ll pick the wrong guy/gal?
It?s a secret ballot.
No one need know.
At least you participated.
You made a choice based on your belief that one candidate, while not everything you wanted, had enough of what you were looking for, that you could support & therefore was better then the other to lead this experiment for the next 4 years.

Voting.
Regardless of the choices offered is the American thing to do.
It?s what America was built on.
What it stands for.
What Americans do.

Choosing the best path based on the options given to them.

So if any of the candidates (Democrat, Republican, Independent) while not everything you wanted at least have some of what you wanted you should never sit on the sidelines.

One always has to be better then the other.
Vote!
It?s the Right Thing to Do!

BTW ? when I use the word you ? I didn?t mean you per say Bluefish9.
And I?m sorry to everyone if this came off the wrong way. But voting is something I feel strongly about & wish more Americans would partake in.
It shames me to know that we have a right guaranteed by the Constitution & than I see the election statistics on the % of Americans who vote. This especially in light of all of those who are dying for that same right.

I?ll get off my soapbox now & I must apologize for that terrible food analogy.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.



This post edited by wader 11:46 PM 01/22/2008
 

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I have to disagree. I would not say that someone making a knowledageable choice to abstain is doing anyone a disservice. Now that's not to say they souldn't vote in the other races that will also be on the ballot. But an abstention is IMHO as voting for someone you can't stand.
 

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you're doing a diservice to yourrself - your ceding your right to choose to someone else.......
 

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Couldn?t agree more, Wader, and very well stated.

For the last few elections it has been hard (for me) to be enthusiastic about either candidate. When that is the situation you vote for the candidate that you can?t stand the least. It?s called choosing the lesser of two evils?.you still choose.
 

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wow...while reading wader's post I began hearing God Bless America faintly echoing in the backround like some vintage speech. Impressive.

...and BF9? Alot better men than you or I died defending this system. Remember that on election day.
 
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