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Chunking from a pier the other morn, had a hit follwed with a close second, only to reel in, finding the line severed. 50lb shouldn't do that. The hits were small, little line peel not a screamer. What gives?.............
 

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Power Pro line as you know is very thin. If you don't tie the proper knot the line will slip. DO NOT USE A CLINCH or IMPROVED CLINCH KNOT! This knot will slip every time. The best knot to use with Power Pro is the Palomar knot. It's easy to tie, it's strong and doesn't slip. You must however, run a loop of the Power Pro twice through the barrel swivel so it won't slip.
I had the same problem with PP as you two years ago until I changed the way I tied my knots.

I hoped this helped

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I would recommend go with Mono for tossing bait. Big game trilene.
I used power pro at the beginning of the year and nothing but problems.
Wind knots , Lined snapped several times
and yes I was using that 50lbs test.
I only fish with lures so after trying out the power pro I went back to fireline. Un-spooled the power pro and thru it in the Garbage!
 

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im with IBEW, i;ve had nothing but problems with that stuff. I dropped Two nice size stripers last fall under the light in montauk, and the wind knots will drive you insane if you fish at night!!. my old stand-by is fireline even when it gets white and frayed its still does the job..
 

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I think I Know why some of you gentlemen are having problems with the PP. Do you store your rod for any length of time with your line wrapped around your tip? Worse -Do you drive with the line wrapped around your tip? If you answered yes to either question -this will solve your problem. PP develops a flat spot at the point you line meets the tip. It develops this spot when stored for any length of time. PP will break at the point of the flat spot pretty easily. If you have to store your rod with the the line wrapped around the tip make sure the line is your leader. That should solve your hard aches.--Also ditto what tide runner said
 

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the flat spot however may not be the problem since i cut lines b4 storage. I also had this happen in the spring livelining great kills beach. caught many fish b4 and after the mystery break so it shouldn't be the quality of the line....R powerpro and spierline two diffent animals?
 

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Who needs the headache?

I just tried pp on my last two fluke trips fishing deep water and i hated it for the following reasons:

1) Missed alot of fish that I never miss with mono.....i think it is because while it's true that you feel the pick up more easily THEY feel you more easily too!(I know how to drop back on a fish by the way)

2) While drifting deep for fluke we started picking up blues my buddy landed 2 with mono I lost both of mine.
The reason....NO Stretch!!....the fish just bounces on the end of the line making the hole in his face bigger and bigger.( I know how to set my drag)

i don't need the headache....I'll put a few more ounces of lead on and continue to Catch fish as always.
 

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Interesting thread! Some gripes are inherent to all braids. The lack of stretch causes some problems with landing any fish with braid whether by drag or pulling a hook.Bottom fishing? Inshore or offshore? Offshore in deeper water of 80 plus feet it's a definite advantage that you can set a hook and use 30% less lead. Inshore it's tricky though IMO, chunking Bass with braid lets you feel whats going on but also lets the Bass know what's going on too! Calmer water that's clear surfcasting, go with mono or a 12ft leader of mono with braid. Them Bass ain't stupid and can see passed your 36 inch shot of flouro. I've got 5 conv and 1 spinner for the beach with PP and never had any problems except the fish can see it so I always have 1 spooled with mono for the quiet nights. Casts better than mono, lasts longer, costs more. Wind knots happen with spinners with a head wind and an over spooled reel. Conv, not a single problem. Prospector
 

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I like the pp for the simple reason that, when using conventional you still get the sensitivity if you are launching your bait a good distance. However, the surprise breaks are not acceptable going into the fall. Never had the same problem wreck fishing with hundreds more sharp obstacles.
 

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All this talk is making me nervous. I switched to PP about 2 months ago and cant say enough good stuff about.

Without jinxing my self.........

Havn't had any knot failure.
Havn't had any line snap.

Have had a few wind knots, But think I was overspooled.
Have been able to add about 20yds to my cast distance.
Have (I Believe) Landed more fish now that I have figured how to fish it.
Have converted a lot of friends to PP once they have used it.


Bottom line is I love the line....
 

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I love my PP. I cast farther(65~90 yards more) and feel almost everything like those crabs I hate. I also dont get any breakoff and knot problems. I still use mono on my spin. I plan to use PP on my baitcaster for fall bass. I would love to get a 28"+ striper on a homemade flie. I have caught a few snapper blues on my flies.

I think your PP broke maybe due to poor knot technique. Sometimes it is what you use like a shiny swivel and you will get cut off from bluefish. It happened to me and now I will use black swivel and lots of wire leader.
 

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I haven't used a shiny swivel in 15 yrs. I think that if these lines get a nick they part easily. And the nicks are harder to detect than with mono.
My knots are: palomar, uni, double uni, which all maintain 90-100% line strength. I am pretty sure my technique is sound. I fish conventional, so the line roller can't be it. Another theory I have is that when you fish conventional with this stuff, because its so thin and your casts absolutely fly...friction??? The line doesn't absorb water, so it doesnt have a slick nature like mono would. After repeated casts could the heat weaken the line??
....just a thought.
 

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mytiju, only thing I can think of is you blew up your conv, picked it out not knowing the damage you did to the line? You don't have to break off to do the damage! Leaning into a 2 or 3oz plug and backlashing the reel will do it. With mono your line just snaps so you know you've got a problem and a lost plug and the rest of the mono outside the tip was stretched to the max and is worthless also. Maybe? Prospector
 

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Now I really considering a change. After reading a couple of fishing posts for the daily fishing this week I have noticed a few more guys having the MYSTERY pop. One guy had it happen while fluke fishing and had a fish on. I dont want to become a statistic. Considering TUFF LINE XP (?) anyone fishing with it yet?

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You may have something with the friction thing, I have not had this happen to my bottom fishing rods w/ conventional reels (yet). I also have it on so reels that I cast with (no pop yet either) But should be intersting test between the 2 in the weeks to come.
 

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Please check the tip of your guides. I have an idea it could be that. I use conventional with and without levelwind and still have not experienced the sudden break in my casts. I cast more than 350ft thanks to Ron Arra's book.

If not your knots. Your leader maybe lighter than the PP and you got stuck. I have seen this happen. The knot comes apart or just break and you wont feel it like mono.
 

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I saw that report with the fluke. That guy also said it wasn't the first time. I have the pp on a harnell 542 with h.duty sic casting guides. I did the q-tip test and came up with nothing. I haven't had a true blow up with this stuff yet, only minor overruns from the bait hitting the water, not paying attn. I caught a lot of fish on it this year maybe its worn out? Little expensive to change like mono.
 

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CHECK YOUR GUIDES

mystery popping of power pro is usually caused by worn or fractured guides on your rod.
take a q-tip or cotton ball and run it through each guide on your rod (both directions), where the cotton hangs up and gets caught is where you have a problem guide.
replace it and your power pro popping problems are done.

as for those who have tried and hate the braided lines, i suggest you give it another try.
there are great advantages to the braided line, but there is a small learning curve to master in using them.

most of the above complaints i have read are based on inexperience with using the line. once you get used to it, you will love it.

as for how good the line is, most pin hooking crews switched over to braided lines years ago and never looked back, makes a BIG difference in anything over 50 feet.

don't ignore it, learn how to use it and your catch rate will improve dramitically with bottom fishing.
 
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