Phenix Jigging Blank
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do they have a website Kil?
Here is their website, but it doesn't show any information yet.
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MarkT posted about the blank on Allcoast after Fred Hall Show:
"I looked at the 6'6" 20-60 rated rod and in pulling on it with one of the guys in the booth was just about able to lift him off the ground. Nice bend and more than enough power for 30-40# line. "
Wow
Here is their website, but it doesn't show any information yet.
Phenix Rod
MarkT posted about the blank on Allcoast after Fred Hall Show:
"I looked at the 6'6" 20-60 rated rod and in pulling on it with one of the guys in the booth was just about able to lift him off the ground. Nice bend and more than enough power for 30-40# line. "
I spoke to one of the current Phenix partners and he mentioned that the blanks and rods will be available in June/July. The Phenix graphite boron rods and blanks were last year's models. The current line up has a different blank composition with one of components made by Toray (who makes Blackwater braids and flouro).
I was interested in the 8.5 foot 20-50lb blanks--the one used in the pictures--but they only had 2 sets of blanks and maybe 2 sets of finished rods until their first shipments begin arriving.
This post edited by ahistick 09:30 PM 03/09/2008
I was interested in the 8.5 foot 20-50lb blanks--the one used in the pictures--but they only had 2 sets of blanks and maybe 2 sets of finished rods until their first shipments begin arriving.
This post edited by ahistick 09:30 PM 03/09/2008
ahistick wrote:
I spoke to one of the current Phenix partners and he mentioned that the blanks and rods will be available in June/July. The Phenix graphite boron rods and blanks were last year's models. The current line up has a different blank composition with one of components made by Toray (who makes Blackwater braids and flouro).
I was interested in the 8.5 foot 20-50lb blanks--the one used in the pictures--but they only had 2 sets of blanks and maybe 2 sets of finished rods.
Thanks for the information. So the blanks come from Japan.
I suspect a rod manufacturer in Japan make the blanks for Toray.
I'll find out. There are not many rod manufacturers in Japan and many blanks are made in China or other countries now. I heard even Yozuri is not Japanese company anymore as a foreign buyer bought the company and make Yozuri's productions in China.
This post edited by KILSONG 09:33 PM 03/09/2008
I spoke to one of the current Phenix partners and he mentioned that the blanks and rods will be available in June/July. The Phenix graphite boron rods and blanks were last year's models. The current line up has a different blank composition with one of components made by Toray (who makes Blackwater braids and flouro).
I was interested in the 8.5 foot 20-50lb blanks--the one used in the pictures--but they only had 2 sets of blanks and maybe 2 sets of finished rods.
Thanks for the information. So the blanks come from Japan.
I suspect a rod manufacturer in Japan make the blanks for Toray.
I'll find out. There are not many rod manufacturers in Japan and many blanks are made in China or other countries now. I heard even Yozuri is not Japanese company anymore as a foreign buyer bought the company and make Yozuri's productions in China.
This post edited by KILSONG 09:33 PM 03/09/2008
KILSONG wrote:
Thanks for the information. So the blanks come from Japan.
I suspect a rod manufacturer in Japan make the blanks for Toray.
That's the info I was made to believe; the blanks being made in Japan. Toray manufactured one of the blank components not the blanks. He also mentioned that one of the other blank components was Chinese. I'll check further; will be talking to the other partner to see if I can get one of the 8.5 or 8 foot blanks sooner than later since the Fred Hall show ended today.
This post edited by ahistick 09:37 PM 03/09/2008
Thanks for the information. So the blanks come from Japan.
I suspect a rod manufacturer in Japan make the blanks for Toray.
That's the info I was made to believe; the blanks being made in Japan. Toray manufactured one of the blank components not the blanks. He also mentioned that one of the other blank components was Chinese. I'll check further; will be talking to the other partner to see if I can get one of the 8.5 or 8 foot blanks sooner than later since the Fred Hall show ended today.
This post edited by ahistick 09:37 PM 03/09/2008
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The current line up has a different blank composition with one of components made by Toray (who makes Blackwater braids and flouro).
I wonder how that's going to affect the pricing of their blanks. GUSA is getting to be more and more of a bargain.
The current line up has a different blank composition with one of components made by Toray (who makes Blackwater braids and flouro).
I wonder how that's going to affect the pricing of their blanks. GUSA is getting to be more and more of a bargain.
Hi Everybody,
I am pleased to see there is some discussion about Phenix rods again. We just came back from the Fred Hall show and it was a tremendous experience. The reception to our new product line for both freshwater and saltwater was great.
I wanted to clarify a few things about our rod materials, where they are made, etc. The raw material for our rod blanks comes from Toray. That was essential for us. We wanted our line to be made of only the highest quality material. It is a carbon fiber and graphite weave which makes our blanks both light and strong.
Our blanks are not made in Japan. They are not made in the US. They are MIC (Made in China). In fact, the reason why we chose our Chinese partner is the fact that they use Toray materials. Most rod manufacturers use Chinese graphite which we feel is an inferior product. As much as I would have loved our blanks to be made in Japan, it is not financially feasible for us to do so at the price point that we want to offer the consumer. I believe having our blanks made in China does not diminish the quality of the product. In fact our Chinese partner OEM's a lot of rods and blanks for very high quality, well-known manufacturers.
Sorry, if myself or any of the partners caused any confusion at the Fred Hall Show. We wanted to highlight the fact that our blanks use material from Toray. I do believe that is a selling point. We do not want to mislead anybody into thinking that our blanks are spun in Japan.
If you have any questions, please feel free to email me at info[at]phenixrods.com.
Robert
I am pleased to see there is some discussion about Phenix rods again. We just came back from the Fred Hall show and it was a tremendous experience. The reception to our new product line for both freshwater and saltwater was great.
I wanted to clarify a few things about our rod materials, where they are made, etc. The raw material for our rod blanks comes from Toray. That was essential for us. We wanted our line to be made of only the highest quality material. It is a carbon fiber and graphite weave which makes our blanks both light and strong.
Our blanks are not made in Japan. They are not made in the US. They are MIC (Made in China). In fact, the reason why we chose our Chinese partner is the fact that they use Toray materials. Most rod manufacturers use Chinese graphite which we feel is an inferior product. As much as I would have loved our blanks to be made in Japan, it is not financially feasible for us to do so at the price point that we want to offer the consumer. I believe having our blanks made in China does not diminish the quality of the product. In fact our Chinese partner OEM's a lot of rods and blanks for very high quality, well-known manufacturers.
Sorry, if myself or any of the partners caused any confusion at the Fred Hall Show. We wanted to highlight the fact that our blanks use material from Toray. I do believe that is a selling point. We do not want to mislead anybody into thinking that our blanks are spun in Japan.
If you have any questions, please feel free to email me at info[at]phenixrods.com.
Robert
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Well, that's a relief. Thanks for posting! Incidentally, I just a read a post on a west coast forum where someone was claiming that your company was selling PacBay blanks as your own brand at the show. You might want to do some damage control there.
Welcome aboard Phenix.
Thanks for the explanation. As I said, there are very few rod manufacturers in Japan and many famous Japanese jigging/popping rods come from China. As long as there is quality control, nothing is wrong with rods from China.
One of the most expensive jigging reels, Blue Heaven comes from Korea.
Thanks for the explanation. As I said, there are very few rod manufacturers in Japan and many famous Japanese jigging/popping rods come from China. As long as there is quality control, nothing is wrong with rods from China.
One of the most expensive jigging reels, Blue Heaven comes from Korea.
Robert,
Sorry for the assumption about the rod and country of manufacture. I was trying to understand the differences between the graphite boron rods/blanks and the Black Diamond blanks.
Believe me, I am happy with my blank!!!
Thanks again!
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Our blanks are not made in Japan. They are not made in the US. They are MIC (Made in China). In fact, the reason why we chose our Chinese partner is the fact that they use Toray materials. Most rod manufacturers use Chinese graphite which we feel is an inferior product. As much as I would have loved our blanks to be made in Japan, it is not financially feasible for us to do so at the price point that we want to offer the consumer. I believe having our blanks made in China does not diminish the quality of the product. In fact our Chinese partner OEM's a lot of rods and blanks for very high quality, well-known manufacturers.
Sorry, if myself or any of the partners caused any confusion at the Fred Hall Show. We wanted to highlight the fact that our blanks use material from Toray. I do believe that is a selling point. We do not want to mislead anybody into thinking that our blanks are spun in Japan.
Robert
Sorry for the assumption about the rod and country of manufacture. I was trying to understand the differences between the graphite boron rods/blanks and the Black Diamond blanks.
Believe me, I am happy with my blank!!!
Thanks again!
phenix wrote:
Our blanks are not made in Japan. They are not made in the US. They are MIC (Made in China). In fact, the reason why we chose our Chinese partner is the fact that they use Toray materials. Most rod manufacturers use Chinese graphite which we feel is an inferior product. As much as I would have loved our blanks to be made in Japan, it is not financially feasible for us to do so at the price point that we want to offer the consumer. I believe having our blanks made in China does not diminish the quality of the product. In fact our Chinese partner OEM's a lot of rods and blanks for very high quality, well-known manufacturers.
Sorry, if myself or any of the partners caused any confusion at the Fred Hall Show. We wanted to highlight the fact that our blanks use material from Toray. I do believe that is a selling point. We do not want to mislead anybody into thinking that our blanks are spun in Japan.
Robert
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Cool. Keep us posted, please.
Below is a partial listing of their blanks from one a SoCal retailer. The blanks used on the picture above are the 8.5 and 9 foot heavy models.
PHENIX BLANK PSW600H 6' HEAVY 20-60 LB 129.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW650H 6'5" HEAVY 20-60 LB 129.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW808MH 8' MED/HEAVY 15-40 LB 149.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW809H 8' HEAVY 20-50 LB 149.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW866L 8'6" LIGHT 8-25 LB 149.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW869H 8'6" HEAVY 20-50 LB 169.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW908MH 9' HEAVY 15-40 LB 169.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW909H 9' HEAVY 20-50 LB 179.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW909XH 9' XTRA/HEAVY 25-65 LB 189.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW600H 6' HEAVY 20-60 LB 129.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW650H 6'5" HEAVY 20-60 LB 129.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW808MH 8' MED/HEAVY 15-40 LB 149.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW809H 8' HEAVY 20-50 LB 149.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW866L 8'6" LIGHT 8-25 LB 149.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW869H 8'6" HEAVY 20-50 LB 169.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW908MH 9' HEAVY 15-40 LB 169.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW909H 9' HEAVY 20-50 LB 179.00
PHENIX BLANK PSW909XH 9' XTRA/HEAVY 25-65 LB 189.00
Has anyone played with these yet??? I'm looking into the 10-30# 7' for Fluking in the LIS, up to 6oz bucktail, or 8 oz lead sinkers. Also considering a 20-60H for tuna jigging, cut to around 6' or less for a spinner for 7-14oz jigs (200 to 400gr). Any ideas??
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