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Hitting PETA where it hurts: International Eat an Animal for PETA Day
If you haven't heard by now, PETA has started yet another offensive ad campaign. This one really reaches bottom?they are using Holocaust terminology, quotes, and pictures to liken the "slaughter" of animals to the slaughter of the Jews by the Nazis.

PETA is known for this kind of outrageous publicity stunt?and that's what it is, an outrageous publicity stunt?and while I am also offended and outraged, there is absolutely nothing we can do that will make PETA change their ad campaign. I'm sure they knew exactly what they were doing, have a plan in mind, and, if they withdraw the campaign, will do it according to their deadlines and their decisions.

So let's make up our own outrageous publicity stunt. Let's designate Saturday, March 15th, as International Eat an Animal for PETA Day. Everybody set the date on your calendar, and either go out and enjoy a great steak, or cook one at home. Or cook up some chicken or fish or anything else that PETA wouldn't want you to eat. And let's let PETA know how their ad campaign has affected us.

Send a letter to PETA something on the order of this one: (You can cut and paste, but you can also write your own.)

Dear PETA,

I found your new ad campaign, "The Holocaust on your plate," offensive and outrageous. But I don't expect your organization to suddenly develop any sense of tact or human decency, so I thought I'd tell you what your campaign has wrought:

March 15th has been designated "International Eat An Animal For PETA" day. On that day, I'll be chowing down on a juicy steak, or chicken, or perhaps I'll have lobster?fresh, of course, chosen from the tank specifically for me. Maybe I'll have a plate of ribs at my local barbecue restaurant. Then there's that great seafood restaurant with the poached salmon and the delicious crabcakes. I could take my family there.

America's a free country, and you have the right to say what you want, no matter how offensive I think it is. But as a result of your insensitivity to those millions of people who died in the real Holocaust, and to the survivors and their descendants, I and my family will show PETA the same kind of insensitivity.

And have a great, meat-filled dinner, while we're at it.

Chew on that......

They can be contacted at PETA
501 Front St.
Norfolk, VA 23510
Tel.: 757-622-PETA (7382)
Fax: 757-622-0457
E-Mail [email protected]

United Kingdom:
PETA Europe Ltd.
PO Box 36668
Tel: 020 7357 9229
Fax: 020 7357 0901
E-Mail [email protected]
PETA Europe Web Site:

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How to offend them? Call it peta-grill day! Keep those coals
HOT! We got alot of animals to cook up!
15 min video of mates filleting fish...
Oh oh that ones still alive....How to tell if a peta member infiltrates your barbeque...he's the only guy not drinking a beer while standing away from the grill, tears falling as he mourns... They should make themselves human shields for deer being hunted by lions! Have I made my opinion clear?

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look at petas response to my email
Thank you for offering your thoughts on our "Holocaust on Your Plate"
Campaign. I want to explain further why we decided to do this campaign
and why we think it's so important.

As a Jew, and on behalf of the Jewish people in the PETA office, some of
whom came up with the idea for the creation of this project, please let
me assure you that the intention of the display is to decrease the
amount of cruelty in the world, not to minimize the human suffering that
occurred during the Holocaust.

It might help for you to know that this project is funded by a Jewish
philanthropist who has spent the last 25 years working with prominent
Jewish organizations that highlight the atrocities that took place
during the Holocaust. This donor is one of many compassionate people who
recognize the moral and ethical imperative of making the public aware of
the parallels between what was done to Jews and others in World War II
and what is being done to animals kept in intensive confinement systems
and slaughtered for food today.

The concept of our campaign originated with Nobel Prize-winning Yiddish
author and vegetarian Isaac Bashevis Singer, who said, "In relation to
[animals], all people are Nazis; for [them], it is an eternal
Treblinka." As you may know, Singer fled Europe as the Nazis were coming
into power and lost most of his family in the Holocaust. He became a
vegetarian as a result of what he lived through and what he saw. He
spoke out in favor of vegetarianism until his death in 1991. His
argument was that it doesn't matter who the victims are-we must speak
out against all atrocities and cruelties and help to stop them.

While the exhibit is shocking and very hard to look at, please consider
visiting our Web site, where you'll read what many
Holocaust survivors and their families have said about the fact that it
is not only appropriate, but necessary to learn from the Holocaust and
apply these lessons to help the weakest among us today: the animals. We
honor victims of the Holocaust by remembering what they went through,
doing our part to lessen violence on all levels, and by making sure that
we learn from this history.

As a child, I read about and studied the Holocaust, and one of the
things that has stuck with me for years has been the stunning reality
that as 11 million people were spit on, mocked, beaten, and gassed,
millions more-those who were not in fear for their lives-looked on and
let it happen because it didn't affect them directly. PETA is asking
people to stop this from happening today.

Most animals raised for food each year in the United States live on
"factory farms," where to maximize profits, producers raise the most
animals in the least amount of space possible. Overcrowded in small
cages or stalls, most never see the sun, breathe fresh air, or feel
grass beneath their feet. Frightened infants are torn from their
distraught mothers. Chickens have their beaks cut off; cows have their
horns pulled from their heads; pigs are castrated-all without
painkillers. Then these animals are crowded into filthy, slippery
transport trucks in all weather extremes and taken to slaughterhouses
where they are strung up by their legs and have their throats slit-often
in full view of each other. The entire time, these self-aware animals
live and die in fear and pain. All we are asking people to do is
consider and reject what animals are being forced to go through every
day just because people don't relate to them.

Dr. Helmut Kaplan, a scholar and philosopher, said, "Our grandchildren
will ask us one day: Where were you during the Holocaust of the animals?
What did you do against these horrifying crimes? We won't be able to
offer the same excuse for the second time, that we didn't know." The
Holocaust happened because people turned a blind eye to cruelty. Will we
now turn our backs on cruelty and injustice again? Every time a person
sits down for a meal, he or she chooses whether to support the holocaust
against animals or to help end it. We shouldn't choose which atrocities
to oppose. As human beings, we should oppose all atrocities.

The idea that just because animals are different or can't speak for
themselves, they shouldn't be considered living, breathing, sentient
beings worthy of life is the same mindset that allowed the Holocaust to
happen. Philosopher Theodor Adorno, a German Jew who fled Nazi Germany
in the 1930s, wrote, "Auschwitz begins wherever someone looks at a
slaughterhouse and thinks: they're only animals."

I hope this helps to clarify the rationale behind this campaign. Please
do let me know if you have further thoughts or questions. To learn more
about Judaism and vegetarianism, please visit


Matt Prescott
Youth Outreach Coordinator
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA)

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I agree with the PETA letter. The way food animals are kept, slaughtered and fed for the most part is deplorable. Adds like this are designed to shock and make you think as they should. Like the "starving children in third world countries" infomercials.
Another thing is the quality of the meat we eat is compromised by the lousy way the agriculture industry treats these animals.

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If you feel this is sooooo wrong why dont you just go join peta. The purpose of these animals are to be slaughtetred and eaten by man.Just to let you know this orginzation IS TRYING TO BAN HUNTING AND FISHING. Talk about inhumane how about the way we gaff fish then we throw them in an icebox filled with other fish and we slowly suffocate them. Thats inhumane and were all gulity of this. I have no tolerance for peta and none of us should.

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lighttackleman - The purpose of these animals are to be slaughtetred and eaten by man.

Opinions of men who are MUCH SMARTER than YOU ........

"I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men."
Leonardo Da Vinci

"Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet"
Albert Einstein

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

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I THINK YOU ARE ON THE WRONG SITE....... THIS ISNT PETA.COM. ANY TIME IVE EVER SEEN YOUR POSTS THEY HAVE BEEN RUDE AND NASTY AND SNAPY do us all a favor and just go join peta. I would love to chat but i gotta check on my vension chili with extra meat lol.

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Lighttackleman I guess a person cannot express a different opinion or thought than yours ?

"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function."
F. Scott Fitzgerald

LIGHTTACKLEMAN- Did you understand what that quote means ?
I can appreciate your conviction and sincerity in your views, but .....

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and consciencious stupidity."
Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Lighttackle"man". I'm wondering right now if you are you old enough to own a firearm. You sound like an angry, frustrated boy. If my memory isn't deceiving me aren't you the guy that was coming into the chat room last week using aliases like "gladmegaisgone" etc. or something to that effect?
Let's get something straight, animals are on this earth for us to eat, but they are not on this earth for us to abuse and treat without respect. I'm not an extremist like the PETA people...they are nuts, but some of their points are valid. I'm pro hunting and fishing and eat meat, but the ways they are treating livestock must change. One example would be the feeding of reprossesed beef entrails etc. to cows. This is how mad cow started, and how many other diseases can develop. From the sound of it you may have already contracted it.
So in conclusion, before you start rabble-rousing and running around shooting your mouth off in every forum, so proud that you got a response back from PETA, open your mind and get a little clue.

(This post edited by 186logic on 03/05/2003)

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Lets clear something up......... I never ever went into a chatroom and said im glad meg is gone or signed in under a name like that.If you actaully checked the anglers lounge i started a topic asking where megs is and if hes okay.Secondly I own several firearms if you like come over my house sometime and i will give you a tour........ lastly i posted this topic to inform every one what was going on with peta and how we could get back at them since the last time i checked peta is the same orginzation that is trying to ban fishing. Hey i respect what peta is trying to do and respect their views but when they start messing with things i enjoy to do then i take it personally. Last time i checked peta is the same org that is trying to ban fishing but hey if you wanna believe in some of the things they do fine.......... but rember their are powers in numbers. They use terriosm to support animal rights. None of their money ever goes to the animals it all goes to their executives. Why dont you go do some research. By the way i try and stay away from steak and load up on vension sooo that mad cows disease i dont got. Tight lines and best of luck this season 186 logic..... later chris

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posted 02/28/2003 10:31 PM
LTM - are you a fan of mine? Nexy time you come into the Chat room, log on as: MEGisGONE, MEGABOT, MEGABOT1 MEGABOT2, MEGABOT3, BILLY40ISAN @$$#o!&, fanofBILLY40, and the 2 others I cannot remember - you might want to try and be a little more incognito.

Using Vulagarities towards me is not nice. If you do not find my ******* joke funny - or any other jokes funny - well, I'm sorry you cannot laugh at yourself. I have no problem laughing at myself.

The funny thing is, you weren't this angry with me when you asked me a million questions about a custom rod you were getting built. YOu proceeded to ask teh same question, over and over, and over - and I politely answered each time. Did I not?

So why come in the Chat Room, 5 minutes after posting this ALL CAPS response, and type in all CAPS again? Not very smart. At least remember to mash the CAps Lock button.


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posted 03/01/2003 07:50 AM
hey billy,
is that better? I have never used one curse word towards you. If i did dont you think noreast would have edited my posts. Sorry for being too loud for you. I have a very good sense og humour and can laugh at myslef. And i do appreciate your insight in custom rods. Just wasnt haveing a good day yesterday. Cant we all just be friends? But look i dont think people appreciate your comments about hunters. sorrry to be nasty towards you but like i said i dont appreciate those comments. lets be friends billy lol. i would talk to you in the chatroom but im going away for the weekend. talk to ya lata...... chris

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This is what I saw. So now you are not that guy??

The whole idea of "getting back" at PETA with that inflamatory letter is infantile and it also smudges the reputation and of conscientious hunters in general.

Why don't you write them a more appropriate letter about their crazy views on hunting and fishing...that is what really upsets us.

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I wasnt that guy and me and billy have solved our promblems. If you dont believe me send him a pm and ask him yourslef. As far as sending them hunting and fishing letters ive wrote dozens and none of them ever worked.Infact they've stalked me and made my life a living ****. No matter how polite and respectful they are it never works and what happens is all of there members call your hosue and send you tons of hate mail. So im done being polite. 186 lets start over again lol hi im chris nice to mee you. If you still have any negative feelings towards me please send me a pm and we could work it out like men.PS that gun tour is still open lol. CABIN FEVER IS GETTING THE BEST OF does it go from 50 degrees to 30 degress in 24hrs errrrrrrrr.I HATE SNOW..... later chris

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I heard the president of PETA speak on a radio interview today. The guy is nuts. I sypmathize with animals but truly believe that humans are part of the food chain (at the top thankfully) and creatures like cows and chickens and pigs were placed on this planet to feed us all. I often think that if we became a planet of vegetarians that we would do more damage to this planet by destroying wild habitat to create vegetable farms thus endangering far more creatures. Well, the point of my post is that Ted Nugent, avid hunter, also called in to the radio station saying how PETA has done absolutely nothing even though they receive millions in funding to benefit animals. They simply exist to try to change the way people feel about animals. It was very interesting listenin to "the Nuge" speak as he is a very smart intelligent man that had some very insightful information. Ted listed countless hunting groups and all the habitat they have saved and restored/rehabilitated. PETA hasn't even saved a single blade of grass. The most dangerous thing animals are facing right now is habitat destruction. PETA is acting like a bunch of extremists who are beginning to act immorally and insensitively by comparing the most horrific act in mankind to the slaughter of animals. How can you compare the killing of people based on their race to the slaughter of an animal that is meant to be eaten? In the interview PETA compared also the plight of slaves to the treatment of animals. There is no comparison. I have to disagree with the posters that say we should write PETA as I truly believe that will only benefit PETA by showing how much attention this ad campaign has brought to their cause.

As for fishing. They are a big threat to fishing. They are putting big pressure on the boy scouts to get them to stop promoting fishing. Anyone who thinks they are not a threat to our lively hood is wrong.

Now, back to my steak...

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186 - I made a mistake thinking it was LTM doing this. I sent him a PM and apologized, as well as explain teh situation. I don't edit too much of what I say - if I said it I meant it. If I was wrong, I'll own up and admit it. In this case, I was wrong, apolgized, and have moved on.

Sorry for the confusion on this.
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