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I have been fishing with the 965 for three years now and have had no issues with it. I have used it from everything from bass and blues to pitching baits to mahi. There are plenty of other similar reels out there that can do the same but like anything else, it comes down preference. I have mine spooled with 50lb braid. I could probably use 30lb pound braid but use the 50lb because I feel it is easier to tie knots. I picked up an avet sx this winter to try something new and to see if I could get a little more distance out of my casts because casting distance is one thing the 965 lacks.
 

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I've been fishing a pair of 965s for several years. Mainly used for deep water fluking but have used for eeling bass, jigging bass & inshore blackfishing. I've never had a problem with either although I know some who have had repeated problems.

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Another person who has used a 965 for several seasons with no problems. I use mine for jigging bass and blues and have it spooled with 30lb. PP. It's not the smoothest reel I own...that would be my Shimanos, but it is a workhorse with a great drag.
 

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PENN 965

I fished with a 965 and had some issues, my clicker doesn't work anymore, I had to have the gears replaced, but maybe I was a little too hard on it.

I have a Torium 14 and for the money, in my personal opinion I think it's a better reel, and personally I shying away from level winds where ever possible.
 

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I own 4 965s for 3 or 4 seasons now and have had a few minor problems with them also. I use them from bassing and fluking to mahis and big cudas and amberjacks down south. For the most part I like them but I have been thinking about giving some Shimano products a try.
 

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Well now, the Penn 965, you ask?

Nice stuff.

The closest reel that can be DIRECTLY compared to the Penn 965 is the Calcutta 400 - either the plain old 400 or the newer 400B - NOT the 400CTE. That reel is of a higher order, I mean in the pantheon of cool high-end fishing gear.

So if you want to make such a comparision, I am qualifed to have that discussion, since I regularly work on both reels for myself and my buddies.

I know its the popular position to make nearly EVERY Shimano the favorite in every comparison, (especially here on this board) but in THIS specific case, the Penn wins.

Hands down.

All it takes is a comparative teardown of the two reels, side-by-side, to see that the Penn has far more robust gears (Steel not Brass, IIRC), better internal part finishing, far less internal plastic, much easier to handle drag washers, and to my eye and feel, better anodizing of the sideplates and frame.

One of the big knocks on the Penn 955/965/975 is that the free spool button tends to get stuck in the down position, leaving the owner in the lurch as far as retrieving his lure or bait. Well let me say this, every instance that I've ever seen this, it has been directly traceable to a decided lack of maintenance.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not saying the owners neglected their reels. Far from it, but a few nights of heavy casting with the surf crashing on your head, or maybe a couple of bass chumming trips with nice salty/sandy clam belly juice dripping down into the reel from the free-spool button - and it will stick in the down position - count on it.

And certainly we all know that the worst possible thing we can do for our baitcasters is to blow a high pressure stream of water at them at the end of the trip. Right? Doing that about guarantees that the reel will fail, and maybe as soon as the following trip. No heavy stream of water on these reels please, regardless of who built it. I like a hard spray on the rods, but a very light misting of the reels only. In fact I like to do each setup twice - I think the first spray off dissolves the salt and the second washing will move it off the rod/reel. Follow up with a nice damp rag at the house and the outfit will be good to go next trip.

What specifically happens with any of these reels is that SW migrates down from the button into the reel, hardens and contaminates the grease on the free-spooling parts and causes them to hang up when the button is depressed. A simple cleanout and relube with the PROPER lube immediately fixes the problem.

Funny that exact same issue regularly afflicts the Calcutta 400, causing the free-spool thumbar to stick at the bottom of its travel. Yet most of the posts that I've read over the years praising the Cal400 conveniently do choose to look past this quandry - why the Penn 965 doesn't get the same pass, I'll never know.

For that matter, nearly every Abu baitcaster ever built has the exact same problem with internal SW migration and temporary free-spool button/thumbar malfunctioning - in fact, its been my experience thsi is even more of an issue with the Abu reels - but again, totally fixable with just the most basic of disassembly and relubing.

All of these reels, and I include the new Daiwa Luna 300 in this discussion (though I've never had the pleasure of working on one), all of them have lots of frame openings that seem to actually encourage SW contamination. And in every case it seems that all that is needed is a slightly stepped up maintenance regimen.

What I do to preclude this issue from manifesting itself is to use ONLY Marine-grade wheel bearing grease in the reels I work on - you know - the green grease we've used for years on our boats and trailers.

I've tried them all - Garcia's stuff, what's it called, Silicote? Daiwa Shimano's in-house grease, Lubriplate white lithium, Quantum Hot Sauce, SuperLube Synthetic and God only knows how many other greases. I'v gone back to what I originally started with - green marine wheel bearing grease. Its the only grease I've ever used that really does resist SW intrusion/contamination.

It actually seems to shed water, never gets those gritty little salt crystals in it that SuperLube seems to collect and it NEVER hardens into a viscous or tacky mass, like white grease, Superlube or most of the factory greases. Great stuff - and it ought to be, it was designed to live for entire seasons insde the submersible wheel bearings of marine trailers. I really, REALLY recommend it.

As far as light oils for handle spindles, ball bearing lubing and levelwind pawls, I very much like ReelX (Same as SpeedX, if you can find either one - its the same stuff) or the red version of Rocket Lube. Both are excellent.

A little far afield of the original question, but I thought this was a good place to talk about high-performance reel lubes - seeing as all the baitcasters I've ever worked on seem to suffer from the exact same issues.

One other point - many of the original 965 reels came from the factory with only ONE spool ball bearing. This went on for more than 10 years - as far as I can ascertain. This is one of the big reasons that the Penn took some verbal beatings - that it couldn't cast with the Calcutta 400 - or especially not with the better Abu casters.

It was a very simple matter to put a second ball bearing on the spool spindle - it was actually the exact same bearing as was used on the other side of the spool - and the inclusion of it by a reel tuner "in the know" made those early 965s every bit the long-range csaters that the other brand reels were. Better in fact. Not to mention it also smoothed out the cranking, especially under pressure.

Just a season or so ago, I did this upgrade on a good buddy's oldie 965 - he never really cared for that reel because it just couldn't give him the distance he required.

So anyway, I did the bearing upgrade, fine tuned a few other things inside that reel and the first time he used it he shocked himself, he was getting so much added cast distance. That reel has gone from his least favorite caster to his go-to, "reach for first" bass caster. Since then I've done one other of his reels and a few more for other fishers - and all rave about how much better their reels cast. - Oh well, another small super-tuner trick now out of my bag.

No need to worry about this with a newer 965, they are factory-equipped with the "proper' number of spool bearings, right from the get-go. Took Penn a while, but its all good now . . .

best, Lep

This post edited by Leprechaun 07:53 AM 03/22/2008
 

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I am by no means an expert when it comes to the maintenance of reels! In reality, I'm absolutely clueless when it comes to taking them down and rebuilding them. Trust me!

But, I have used many, many reels and I can definitely say that I know the good ones from the bad. I am a bi-partisan reel user. I don't use one manufacturer and bash the rest. I like 'em all...

I owned the 965 and presently own the 955. I experienced just one problem with the reel in the five or so years I've used it. The same problem that Lep & togilator speak of. The sticky spool release button. Was it a major issue? Not at all. I was a little surprised though because I do take extremely good care of my reels. Especially after each use. They get a good rinse and are always dried off with a clean towel. As for the maintenance of my reels, just ask Lep. He is my reel GURU!

I sold my 965 because I found myself using the 955 more and more. It is the smaller version. I like my reels as small as possible. Wish I still had it to sell. It was in MINT condition. Not a mark on it!

I think the reel is great and would recommend it. Are there other reels that could get the job done? Absolutely. The Penn (in my opinion) is a little pricey at about $230.00. That is a personal matter.



This post edited by Savvy18 10:35 PM 03/21/2008
 

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Thank you Lep for that great response. I never had a problem with the free spool button but will start using the lube you suggested. Also agree with you 100% about the better anodizing job on the Penns.
Thanks again.............Ed
 

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I had a Penn 965 a few years ago, but sold it because I wasn't crazy about it. Now, in the reels defense, I was using it off of the beach and jetties for plugging stripers and blues, and I don't think that plugging is this reel's strong suit. Had I had a boat at the time, I think that I would have really liked it for bottom fishing, but I was a 100% beach guy at the time, so I wasn't crazy about the reel.

The one thing that I did like is that I repeatedly dunked it in waves, and a quick rinse seemed fine for keeping away corrosion and other issues.
 
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