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ICE PACK

WOW;
Lot's of great info here.
Try this. Empty 1 liter and two liter bottles. Add water and KOSHER salt.Freeze.The salt lower the freezin temp of the water in bottel. When you have them in the cooler they keep the slurry/IC whatever colder longer. After you gut and head hte fish.STICK the RIGHT SIZE Bottle in the stomach cavity. THIS WILL LOWER THE INTERNAL TEMP.A.S.A.P . That will make the Tuna meat taste better AND KEEP THE WATER OFF THE FISH .MMMMMMMMMM The Tuna meat wont get mushy on you and if you sell it,you'll get more $$$ for it.
BIGEYE. ...aka...Ancient mariner
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Kosher salt in lier bottles

Hi:
Three large spoonfulls to each liter amt does it. Gotta tell ya ,
that It takes LLOONNGGEERR to freeze the liter bottle because WE JUST LOWERED the freeze temp.
ONE other thng. LEAVE 1 to 2 inches of space. If you don't you'll get a mess like me the 1st time I did it. The bottle split on me.
Keep your feet dry and catch 'em up.
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Thanks for that BIGEYE, I always use water jugs for my coolers because good ice is hard to come by! Places like 7-11 and ice machines must freeze their ice at 31 degrees. It last only a couple of hours. Thanks again!
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THE RIGHT WAY

I have been a Giant tuna buyer for the past 15 years, i work with a fish house in japan. I spent 6 MONTHS learning the proper way to handle fish in japan.

Most of the methods posted on this board will work fine, but allow me to explain a few things.

There are really 2 steps to the proper chilling of fish, lets assume it was properly bleed and butchered.
FIRST STEP IS TO COOL THE FISH DOWN, it is very important the fish is cooled down BEFORE you place in cooler or box for storage or transport. Not cooling the fish first causes your storage ice to melt and the water will soften the flesh if allowed to sit in it. This problem most often occurs when fish are caught then put in a cooler without being cooled down first, the ice in your box will melt trying to chill your fish, INSTEAD of keeping the temperature of your cool.
So the right way is to have a extra cooler or a garbage pail works well too.
You create a brine solution of 2 parts ice 1 part salt water, place this in your cooler or pail, then prepare your fish and place in the brine solution for 1 minute per pound of weight, ie. a 50 pound tuna needs to stay about 1 hour in the solution before you remove it. this is an approximate time , you can leave them in longer.
Now after you remove the fish from the brine solution, you then put it in your fish cooler, pack the carvity with ice and surround your fish with ice as well.
If you want to maintain the color of the fish, wrap it in newspaper or rice paper before you ice it down in the stoage cooler. DO NOT DO NOT USE SALT IN YOUR STORAGE COOLER, THERE IS NO NEED FOR IT AND IT MELTS YOUR ICE FASTER IN THIS APPLICATION.

Ok, I know you are thinking, why this way..... when you pack a fish in ice, there are lots of air poctes between the ice, these airpockets do not allow for proper cooling, in addition due to the shape of the ice it is not in direct contact with the fish every, no contact no cooling. so the slush solution used, allows for direct contact with the fish and no airpockets to reduce cooling effeciency. also the rocking of the boat makes the cooling solution circulate around the fish which greatly helps colling as well. this make a HUGE HUGE difference in the cooling of your fish. I can't tell you how many times i have take a core temperature from a tuna that has been iced down for 12 hours or more only to find the internal temperature in the 50-60's range because the fish was not properly cooled down before being iced for storage.

Do you think that all this extra work is not worth it or it doesnt really make that much of a difference ???

Let me prove it to you easly with this test.

Go get 2 beers or soda in cans, get 2 small container and some ice and salt water. take one container fill it with ice only and bury one of the beer cans in ice.
take the other container make a brine solution of 2 parts ice and 1 part saltwater, then place the other can into this solution, now gently spin (rotate) the can in the solution for ONE MINUTE. now take both cans out of the containers, pop the tops and take a sip, you will instantly understand the difference.
By the way, this is a great way of cooling down any hot drink in VERY VERY FAST time, you can take a warm drink and spin it in the brine solution for 1 minute and it will become ICE COLD.

I hope this helps with some of the confusion of cooling and iceing fish properly.
Bleeding and preparing fish is a whole other matter that would be too lenghty to cover here. Remember i spent 6 months in japan learning to handle and prepare fish properly, and by japanese standards i am still a "amatuer" at handling fish, as most fish technictions spend 3-5 years learning the trade.
 

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Megalodon, Thanks for the explanation on cooling down and storing Tuna, I know we would all be interested in your expertise on bleeding and preparing these great fish. Any info would be appreciated.
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mike,

glad i can help.
i will work on a post about butchering tuna in a few days, need some time to complete it.

please be aware the above cooling method works on ALL fish, this is what is done for fish that is intended for sashimi/sushi, which needs the highest quality fish.
if you do this for the fish you intend to cook as well, you will be very surpised by the noticeable jump in taste and quality of the fish you are eating.
i bleed everything i catch if i intened to eat it, from fluke to giants, BLEED THEM ALL.
as an example, if you properly bleed and care for a yellowfin tuna, the meat will be almost white when you fillet the fish, not the usual reddish or brownish red most yellowfins steak out too.
the pre-cooling method is mandatory for tuna and any other large offshore fish, for inshore fish of under 10 lbs you can skip the pre-cooling if you want without any major loss of quality, but larger than 10lbs pre-cool first for best quality.
if you follow these methods, you can safely eat your fish raw.
good luck

ps. tuna tastes best raw after it has aged for 2 days in the fridge, dry your meat well, then wrap it in butcher paper if you have, then wrap it in saran wrap. this is how the pro's do it, 2 days later you got the best taste possible from your fish. the meat will be suitable for sushi/sashimi for about 7 days total in a common american fridge.

and actually the best thing you can do overall to improve the qualitiy of your tuna meat is to improve your fishing technique where you can land your tuna in the shortest possible time, less fight time better the meat starts out.
with proper technique it is possible to land 100lb+ yellowfin in under 5 minutes and blue fin in about 10-15 minutes.
when you read reports about people fighting tuna for hours before landing them, it is 97% of the time a lack of proper fishing technique.
my wife is japanese, she weights 98lbs,5' 3", doesnt fish very often and she has beaten 100lb + yellowfin tuna in under 5 minutes using the proper techniques and equipment ( standup rod, 2 speed real, harness)
its not about strenght, its all technique.
remember the longer the fish is in the water the greater your chance of losing him, and the mushier your tuna meat will become. catch'em quick !
good luck

(This post edited by Megalodon on 03/27/2003)
 

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trolling offshore plugs

i don't khow how to post a message-can someone tell me?

my message is: does anyone have experience trolling offshore plugs like rapalas and braid marauders?

i've had great experience sometimes trolling rapala cd-18's on yellowfin and especially on bigeye right in the wash. i've had wolfpacks smash them when they would hit nothing else.

does anyone have tips for trolling these type lures to keep them running true and avoiding skipping and broaching and flying out of the water.

at 8 knots, they only stay in 50% of the time. what are the do's and don't's in terms of size, line, leader, speed and placement?

these lures work great if you can figure out how to run them true.

please advise.
 

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Plugs for Tuna

Tunataker,

Had good luck this weekend on longfin at FishTails with a YoZuri Bonita plug in blue mackeral. We ran the plug clipped down so it ran just behind and below a squid spreader bar. No hits on the bar, but the plug got 3 of the 11 hits for the day. Clipping it down kept it running well at 7kts.
 
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