[FishWisher]

You'll want to scroll down. I'd like to see the cast control gone and harness lugs added. If they can keep the bigger reel under 35oz, I'm afraid I'll have no choice but to buy one.

Oh, and that handle knob's got to go.

It just doesn't belong.

This post edited by FishWisher 11:18 AM 03/31/2008

 

[KILSONG]

Yes, it looks like bigger size of 665.

 

[ifish42na]

30 and 50 size reels without the preset mechanism...

 

[bretabaker]

yeah i would definitely get the 50 and replace the handle.

 

[FishWisher]

ifish42na wrote:
30 and 50 size reels without the preset mechanism...

Boys and girls, this is what happens when you use spectra adhesive in a poorly ventilated space.

I can clearly see the preset knob at the base of the drag lever.

I'm not sure about the 30 and 50 size - judging by the capacities and pictures, these are more like 16 and 30 sized reels, which is fine by me.

 

[ifish42na]

The preset mechanism I am referring to on Accurate ATD reels such as the 12, 30, and 50 is the alphabetized A-P lever on the right side of the reel. Notice that it is gone. See picture below to refresh memory.

Also, if you re-read the text of article you posted, you should come across the following text:

Right now the reel comes in a 30 and 50 size. The 30 will hold 500 yards of 80 pound spectra while the 50 will hold 500 yards of 100 pound braided line.

If you continue to re-read the text of article you posted, you should come across the following caption under one of the pictures:

We were shown the 50 and 30 size

Picture of original ATD sideplate:

This post edited by ifish42na 01:33 PM 03/31/2008

 

[FishWisher]

Ah, now I see. That's because these are Boss series reels, not ATD. Hence the lack of the lettered preset and numbered lever. If they put some lugs and a real handle on the bigger model, that would the HB jigging special.

 

[Jigalow]

FishWisher wrote:
I'd like to see the cast control gone.

FW, Just curious, what's wrong with the cast control? If you don't need/want it can't you just back it off to zero?

 

[mrbill1]

I believe the two new reels are mean't to fill a gap in higher priced ATD series and the smaller boss series. The ATD's will still remain the flagship model. As long as Accurate can keep these reels priced near the International's and Tiagra's I think they will take a nice market share from Shimano and Penn.

I would guess these reels aren't intended for jigging. The trolling market and cow tuna chunkers will go after these reels. Lug's will be a must, as most small to mid size boat owners use the stand-up style of fishing. It's my opinion that the little golf ball knob should be tossed off the drawing board for this size reel. The standard ATD knob should be used as the standard knob for these reels.

I also don't see the need for the cast control on this size reel. On the boss series I think it is nice. All it will do is just get in the way and take away a nice clean looking appearance on these larger capacity reels.

This post edited by mrbill1 04:34 PM 03/31/2008

 

[FishWisher]

A picture is worth a thousand words.

Jigalow wrote:
FW, Just curious, what's wrong with the cast control? If you don't need/want it can't you just back it off to zero?

Everything is wrong with a cast control on this type of a reel, and doubly so with it being placed in the middle of the left sideplate. It simply shouldn't be. I don't know who pitched this concept to Accurate, but it must have been a hot blond with huge shapely b00bs, 'cause that's the only semi-logical explanation I can envision. If I were running a company that makes super high end reels, and an average looking customer complained that the freespool is too good, my response would be "Dear sir/ma'm, you are too stupid and clumsy to use our reel. Please turn it in for a refund, and use said refund to purchase a Penn Jigmaster. Then fill it with old pink Ande line. Be advised that you have been banned from purchasing our products until further notice. Have a nice day."... Yup, I'd run that fukker into the ground inside of a month, but what a fun ride it would be. I love customer service!

Bill, I'm pretty sure they designed those reels with the sole pupose of fly lining sardines in mind. A niche purpose, to be sure, but LR patrons have been crying for a truly castable cow reel for ages now. This might be it. I'm positive that they are aiming to take a chunk out of Avet's market share, who had enjoyed the status of the LR crowd's darling for the last few years. If you can dodge a wrench, you dodge a ball. And if you can cast a sardine, you can certainly cast a jig.

 

[mrbill1]

Avet's share!!!!!! I don't own one and nobody I fish with own's one. If I did buy one, it would become a sinker, so why waste my money.

I do see these new 30 and 50 accurates being very popular with the "GO FAST" boat crowd. The open top design is nice for us guys with big hands. I was planning on going on a LR trip out of SD, but all the negative attitudes on the fishing boards down in Calif turned me off. I don't want to be on a turtle boat with a bunch of guys with chips on their shoulders for two weeks.

I'd rather be beaten with a bull whip in Mexico for two weeks.

 

[FishWisher]

Yes, yes, we all read the crazy Avet-hatin' friend story. Like it or not, those reels have won a lot of love on the west coast and in NE canyons. It's the best bang for the buck going.

Do what I do - go on the Excel. Very low key crowd on that boat, none of that left coast attitude, and no internet fishermen that I know of. If you get lucky, you may end up fishing with people like Basil and Jerry Brown. Other than that - you can get along with a bunch of milianaire grandpas for a couple of weeks, can't you? Just don't cut in line at the bait tank.

 

[Jigalow]

FishWisher wrote:
Jigalow wrote:
FW, Just curious, what's wrong with the cast control? If you don't need/want it can't you just back it off to zero?

Everything is wrong with a cast control on this type of a reel, and doubly so with it being placed in the middle of the left side plate. It simply shouldn't be. I don't know who pitched this concept to Accurate, but it must have been a hot blond with huge shapely b00bs, 'cause that's the only semi-logical explanation I can envision. If I were running a company that makes super high end reels, and an average looking customer complained that the freespool is too good, my response would be "Dear sir/ma'm, you are too stupid and clumsy to use our reel. Please turn it in for a refund, and use said refund to purchase a Penn Jigmaster. Then fill it with old pink Ande line. Be advised that you have been banned from purchasing our products until further notice. Have a nice day."... Yup, I'd run that fukker into the ground inside of a month, but what a fun ride it would be. I love customer service!

FW, I don't mean to start a pissing contest but other than inferring that I'm stupid and clumsy I don't think you answered my question. Can't you just zero it out to eliminate any effect from the cast control if that's how you want to fish it? That way experts like you and dopes like me can both use the same high quality reel and get what they want out of it.

I can cast a conventional as well most but there are times (especially when jigging tuna) when distance isn't that important and the convenience of the cast control is nice to have. Also if I use the reel for chunking or free lining a bait I can use the control knob to make sure I don't get a backlash if I'm doing other things without resorting to using the clicker. Also I'm not sure why you posted the picture above, that's a totally different type of reel.

 

[KILSONG]

Jjgalow,
Don't pay much attention to what Fishwisher says as that is his personal opinion. You have your opinion and he has his opinion.
When I purchased Accurate 665 two-speed, I was somewhat curious as this was the first time I saw casting control on small lever drag reels.(maybe I did not pay much attention)
However, I found it is necessary soon. Many guys are talking about excellent freespool of Avet reels, but very few guys praise Accurate reels' excellent freespool. I compared Accurate 665 two-speed and Avet Hoo-X together and Accurate 665's freespool is superior to Hoo-X.

Without casting control, it is not easy to cast jigs far without backlashing. For those who don't use casting control, it is useless, but I found it very useful.

This post edited by KILSONG 08:14 PM 03/31/2008

 

[FishWisher]

What? No! Good grief, no. I wasn't infering anything about you personally, just d1cking around. Sorry you took it that way, really. And that's how I hold any reel attached to a large-ish fish, on the rail on in the harness. Especially if it's topless, like all but one of my larger reels are. The idea is to be able to pinch the left side of spool with your finger tips, to add pressure at crucial moments.

 

[bretabaker]

i haven't used the cast control knob on mine much, but i see it's purpose. i don't think it'll get in the way for me. my main problem with it (and I'm sure it's mr bills as well) is that teeny tiny knob. it feels like a marble in my hand. I wish they just offered them with the ATD handle for the same price!

Has anyone heard whether the drags will be as strong as their ATD counterparts?

 

[dhoperos]

group buy on accurate handles?

How many people hate the silver golf-ball attached to their reel where a handle should be?

I heard Fishwisher is running a group buy for power handles to make up for all of his misconduct over the years.

This post edited by dhoperos 03:12 AM 04/01/2008

 

[DaveB]

dhoperos wrote:
I heard Fishwisher is running a group buy for power handles to make up for all of his misconduct over the years.

You heard wrong. He's running the group buy of Barbie-pink crocks with matching thongs.

If you ask nice he might include the color matched 665 that comes with them, but rumor is he saving those for himself, the greedy little bugger!




This post edited by DaveB 09:24 AM 04/01/2008