Now its David Patterson in trouble !
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CHEVY1 wrote:
So who is next in line????????????????
Bruno?????????
Let's see what he has hanging in his closet.
So who is next in line????????????????
Bruno?????????
Let's see what he has hanging in his closet.
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crabman1130 wrote:
CHEVY1 wrote:
So who is next in line????????????????
Bruno?????????
Let's see what he has hanging in his closet.
I would thin Bruno wouldn't want it if it means has has to give up his current post. He's a powerful guy in Albany & probably plans on sticking around up there for a while. If he's ready to retire soon, then he might jump at it.
I wasn't upset that he had been separated from his wife & was sleeping around during the separation, but now we're hearing about an affair with a married govt staff worker!?! Not good!
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CHEVY1 wrote:
So who is next in line????????????????
Bruno?????????
Let's see what he has hanging in his closet.
I would thin Bruno wouldn't want it if it means has has to give up his current post. He's a powerful guy in Albany & probably plans on sticking around up there for a while. If he's ready to retire soon, then he might jump at it.
I wasn't upset that he had been separated from his wife & was sleeping around during the separation, but now we're hearing about an affair with a married govt staff worker!?! Not good!
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i did not hear anything about him using state funds, but he did use and admit using election funds and seemingly paid them back.
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who is next in line?
atty general?
comptroller?
atty general?
comptroller?
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he can do no wrong, like Obama, because the press likes him. Using public money too. At least Spitzer used his own..
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Spitzer shuffled funds around, illegally hired a prostitute AND brought her across state lines.
Paterson allegedly paid for a couple of rooms with campaign funds but they can't tell who did or did not stay in them, so in order to "clear it up" he repaid the campaign from his own funds. Even though he was part of an adulterous relationship with a married woman, society has effectively made that a non-issue at this point of the collapse of civilization.
So for now, Spitzer has been the bigger slime. Time will tell if anything else surfaces.
Paterson allegedly paid for a couple of rooms with campaign funds but they can't tell who did or did not stay in them, so in order to "clear it up" he repaid the campaign from his own funds. Even though he was part of an adulterous relationship with a married woman, society has effectively made that a non-issue at this point of the collapse of civilization.
So for now, Spitzer has been the bigger slime. Time will tell if anything else surfaces.
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Scott, "brought her across state lines"? You make it sound like he kidnapped her, or he smuggled crack and illegal aliens. Dam, so far all we know is he had sex with a hooker.
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crabman1130 wrote:
Scott, "brought her across state lines"? You make it sound like he kidnapped her, or he smuggled crack and illegal aliens. Dam, so far all we know is he had sex with a hooker.
He put her on Amtrak to Washington DC., crossing state lines - federal offense
Scott, "brought her across state lines"? You make it sound like he kidnapped her, or he smuggled crack and illegal aliens. Dam, so far all we know is he had sex with a hooker.
He put her on Amtrak to Washington DC., crossing state lines - federal offense
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Mann, James Robert, 1856?1922, American legislator, b. McLean co., Ill. A Chicago lawyer, he held many local offices before serving (1897?1922) as a Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives. He was (1910)one of the sponsors of the Mann-Elkins Act, which strengthened railroad-rate regulation by the Interstate Commerce Commission, and he was author (1910), of the Mann Act, which forbade, under heavy penalties, the transportation of women from one state to another for immoral purposes. In the House, Mann introduced the Pure Food and Drugs Act of 1906 and led the fight for an amendment to the Constitution granting suffrage to women.
THE MANN ACT OF 1910
". . .In 1917 the provisions of the law {The Mann Act of 1910] were further extended by the decision in the Caminetti v. United States to include even non-commercial sex. . . The result of such decisions was to change a law that had been designed to prevent white slavery to one designed to enforce morals, even declaring private amorous pleasure trips that crossed state lines to be illegal.
. . . The tendency of the U.S. Supreme Court for a time to include all sexual activity under the categories prohibited by the Mann Act undoubtedly reflected what was taking place in the United States. What had been intended to be an abolition movement had become a prohibition movement, far from the original intent of Mrs. {Josephine} Butler and her co-workers. The United States advanced further toward prohibition than any other country. The attack on illicit sex coincided with the movement to ban alcoholic beverages and just as the temperance drive became a prohibition movement so did the move against reglementation become prohibitionist.
. . .Even fornication was made a crime in many states. In 1920, for example, some twenty states regarded habitual fornication a punishable act, and in sixteen states a single act was enough to bring conviction. Such widespread legal measures against all aspects of sexual activity, however, made enforcement impossible. Most juries proved unwilling to convict for illegal fornication; moreover, the Supreme Court soon recognized that prostitutes had the same rights as other citizens and could be charged with or convicted of only a specific offense. Thus, simply police suspicion that a woman was a prostitute was not enough to have her arrested. Similarly, attempts of municipalities to enact ordinances that prohibited men from talking to suspected prostitutes on streets or sidewalks, or that states they could not walk along the sidewalk with prostitutes. have been ruled unconstitutional. As far as individual prostitutes were concerned, this meant that conviction could only come through the activities of vice officers who had to encourage a woman to solicit them to engage in sexual intercourse.
. . .the vice officer increasingly had to resort to dubious tactics to get a prostitute to commit herself; in the process he often crossed the thin line to entrapment.. . . Another difficulty with this kind of enforcement was that it was open to wide-scale bribery. An officer could appear to be unaware of prostitution taking place on his beat unless there was considerable public pressure for him to respond, and not infrequently this looking the other way by the police officer was something that could be and has been bought. "
"Prostitution: An Illustrated Social History " by Vern and Bonnie Bullough/ Crown Books 1978
Chuck Berry was one of the more high profile celebrities to be charged and convicted under the Mann Act.
Learn more about the Mann Act:
THE MANN ACT OF 1910
". . .In 1917 the provisions of the law {The Mann Act of 1910] were further extended by the decision in the Caminetti v. United States to include even non-commercial sex. . . The result of such decisions was to change a law that had been designed to prevent white slavery to one designed to enforce morals, even declaring private amorous pleasure trips that crossed state lines to be illegal.
. . . The tendency of the U.S. Supreme Court for a time to include all sexual activity under the categories prohibited by the Mann Act undoubtedly reflected what was taking place in the United States. What had been intended to be an abolition movement had become a prohibition movement, far from the original intent of Mrs. {Josephine} Butler and her co-workers. The United States advanced further toward prohibition than any other country. The attack on illicit sex coincided with the movement to ban alcoholic beverages and just as the temperance drive became a prohibition movement so did the move against reglementation become prohibitionist.
. . .Even fornication was made a crime in many states. In 1920, for example, some twenty states regarded habitual fornication a punishable act, and in sixteen states a single act was enough to bring conviction. Such widespread legal measures against all aspects of sexual activity, however, made enforcement impossible. Most juries proved unwilling to convict for illegal fornication; moreover, the Supreme Court soon recognized that prostitutes had the same rights as other citizens and could be charged with or convicted of only a specific offense. Thus, simply police suspicion that a woman was a prostitute was not enough to have her arrested. Similarly, attempts of municipalities to enact ordinances that prohibited men from talking to suspected prostitutes on streets or sidewalks, or that states they could not walk along the sidewalk with prostitutes. have been ruled unconstitutional. As far as individual prostitutes were concerned, this meant that conviction could only come through the activities of vice officers who had to encourage a woman to solicit them to engage in sexual intercourse.
. . .the vice officer increasingly had to resort to dubious tactics to get a prostitute to commit herself; in the process he often crossed the thin line to entrapment.. . . Another difficulty with this kind of enforcement was that it was open to wide-scale bribery. An officer could appear to be unaware of prostitution taking place on his beat unless there was considerable public pressure for him to respond, and not infrequently this looking the other way by the police officer was something that could be and has been bought. "
"Prostitution: An Illustrated Social History " by Vern and Bonnie Bullough/ Crown Books 1978
Chuck Berry was one of the more high profile celebrities to be charged and convicted under the Mann Act.
Learn more about the Mann Act:
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well I guess we missed the cocaine story...
Paterson admits to using cocaine in the past...
Drugs, women, mis use of funds...what's next..??
Here is a guy I want in the most powerful seat in our state.....NOT
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Paterson admits to using cocaine in the past...
Drugs, women, mis use of funds...what's next..??
Here is a guy I want in the most powerful seat in our state.....NOT
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FredyFluke wrote:
Drugs, women, mis use of funds...what's next..??
welllllll Fredy....now that you asked....we've got this guy. Another fine example of responsible representation and integrity. Read on...interesting story. Here's another story listing the prosecution witnesses.
You can't make this stuff up, folks. Our wonderful tax $$ at work.
did you get my cheese whiz boy?
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Drugs, women, mis use of funds...what's next..??
welllllll Fredy....now that you asked....we've got this guy. Another fine example of responsible representation and integrity. Read on...interesting story. Here's another story listing the prosecution witnesses.
You can't make this stuff up, folks. Our wonderful tax $$ at work.
did you get my cheese whiz boy?
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Scott1280 wrote:
Spitzer shuffled funds around, illegally hired a prostitute AND brought her across state lines.
Paterson allegedly paid for a couple of rooms with campaign funds but they can't tell who did or did not stay in them, so in order to "clear it up" he repaid the campaign from his own funds. Even though he was part of an adulterous relationship with a married woman, society has effectively made that a non-issue at this point of the collapse of civilization.
So for now, Spitzer has been the bigger slime. Time will tell if anything else surfaces.
He did not bring her across state lines, she traveled on her own accord. They will never get that one to stick. The only real charges against these guys would be if the used State money, and even that is pretty hard to prove. If there was a legit reason for the room to be rented and reimb by the state, and then the politician used it for hookers or just good friends in addition to its legit use, it will be hard to convict them of anything. Not saying any of this is right, but they would have a hard time convicting anyone of anything. I have a feeling that Spitzer is paying a pretty heavy price at home for his antics.
Spitzer shuffled funds around, illegally hired a prostitute AND brought her across state lines.
Paterson allegedly paid for a couple of rooms with campaign funds but they can't tell who did or did not stay in them, so in order to "clear it up" he repaid the campaign from his own funds. Even though he was part of an adulterous relationship with a married woman, society has effectively made that a non-issue at this point of the collapse of civilization.
So for now, Spitzer has been the bigger slime. Time will tell if anything else surfaces.
He did not bring her across state lines, she traveled on her own accord. They will never get that one to stick. The only real charges against these guys would be if the used State money, and even that is pretty hard to prove. If there was a legit reason for the room to be rented and reimb by the state, and then the politician used it for hookers or just good friends in addition to its legit use, it will be hard to convict them of anything. Not saying any of this is right, but they would have a hard time convicting anyone of anything. I have a feeling that Spitzer is paying a pretty heavy price at home for his antics.
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I'm not sure what the legal definition of "transporting" is. He did arrange for her travel and and for it. Si is that transporting? I'm sure the precents are pretty clear on the point, but I don't know what they are and I'm not going to bother to look it up!
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