wow what a shocker,i adopted 2 dogs both lab mixes 15 and 13 years ago,the oldest my beloved ace a black lab mix had to be put down 4 months ago,the other an ex girl friend took when i kicked her out 10 yrs ago but i know black jack is still alive and kicking,now when i adopted them i think it was a 35 to 40 donation,well to day i visited the north shore animal league in port wastington and adoption fees for a mix were over 100 and for a pure breed 275.i really thought they were out to save animals ,im sure they get gov grants,and plenty of volennter work,now if i had 40 bucks and was willing to give a dog a home,as i have in the past,theyd say no,donation???? whats that,for 275 for a pure breed id rather spend double to a breeder and know the dogs back ground,what has become of this world,,,theres so many abandon dogs out there ever the so called non profits are trying to make out,dont get me wrong but wouldnt you rather give 10 dogs a good home for a fast turn around or hold onto 1 or 2 to try to get top dollar for there adoptions,i thought this was about saving dogs,im sure for every 1-2 top dollar adoption dogs they hold onto for whaT ever time 10 get put to sleep,,,,a very dissapointed man looking for his new best friend
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Let me preface this by saying, I adopted my 8yo lab mix from there.
Most of the animals are not rescued from the NY metro area. After retirement, my father worked there, Adopting from them is tough if not prohibitive. Luckily, I had friends that worked there, neutering was cheap. The adoption cost, 8 years ago was a suggested donation of $50. Then there was a small donation of $35 for the anesteshia for the neutering.
Don't get me wrong, it was all worth it.
All I'm say'ing is check your local shelter before you go there. The local shelters have local pets as opposed to imoprted (from other states) pets.
Besides, NSAL has extremely rigid standards. I think most of you are loving people and would care well for a pet.
Most of the animals are not rescued from the NY metro area. After retirement, my father worked there, Adopting from them is tough if not prohibitive. Luckily, I had friends that worked there, neutering was cheap. The adoption cost, 8 years ago was a suggested donation of $50. Then there was a small donation of $35 for the anesteshia for the neutering.
Don't get me wrong, it was all worth it.
All I'm say'ing is check your local shelter before you go there. The local shelters have local pets as opposed to imoprted (from other states) pets.
Besides, NSAL has extremely rigid standards. I think most of you are loving people and would care well for a pet.
yes i know they are tough,but ive saved two dogs from them in the past,and now as i return 14-15 yrs later they have the prices of a puppy mill,i think the government should look into this and cut there grants and give the money to shelters not looking to make money,i know theres vets here on long island that wll spay or nueter for 25 bucks.i think its time to start sending letters,15 yrs ago northshore animal league had a good rep,but now there no better than a puppy mill and the should not get any type of grants as the hempstead shetlter 3 miles away only asks a 30 donation,the REAL QUESTION IS WHOS TRYING TO SAVE THE UNWANTED DOGS,AND YES I HOPE SOMEBODY EMAILS THIS TO THEM,as a copy has already been sent to all levels of gov that i could find,not to many things in this world bother me,i even hate cats,but dogs cannot take care of themselves with out becoming a nuicance to the public unlike stray cats that just cruise at night feeding on garbage,.,,,,dogs need man and companionship
so let me get this right,youd rather buy a dog from a shelter than from a breeder becuase thats all your doing,buying a dog from the shelter has deemed valueable to there cause,now there are many local shelters that are town run that only ask for a small donation,truly trying to save dogs from being put down,now i wonder how much money local town shelters are losing to places like these,dont want to sound like im nuts just this just doesnt add up,whats going on????????????ive looked at online puppy stores and i can get the same dog at the price but pure breeds, and they get no federal grants and dont claim to be saving dogs lives,please somebody tell me im wrong and explain this to me,but the way things are looking is this place is getting paid twice for there adoptions,once from the government and the again when the dogs are sold......im sorry but you have no idea how much this pisses me off.this touches so many places my tax dollars, my heart to take care of a dog,people taking advantage of a helpless situation and fools following YELLING YEA WERE HELPING OUT WITH THERE WALLETS OPEN....and the worst part of my whole ordeal was would you like to voleenter,as 90 percent of the help is ,,WTF I WISH I WAS ON THE RECIEVING END OF THAT PAYDAY !!!
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I recently brought my mother-in-law's 2 cats there to be put up for adoption because she no longer can care for them anymore.(83 years old/sick. They would not take them. They said they did not have room. I practically begged them to take them because I could not bring them back home. I offered to give them $150.00 donation. They said no. They asked me why I could not keep them & I said I already have 3 cats. They said whats 2 more. I told them whats 2 more for you guys to take. She laughed. I had the cats in cardboard carriers with all their info on the boxes. I told them I would have to let them loose & they said oh no - that's against the law. I told them I knew that, but I had no choice as I was elected to find these cats a home. To make a long story short, I walked around the building and found a side door open where there was cages with cats in them. I said goodbye to the cats and left them there. I also went to local shelter & they only take in animals on Tues. It was Wed. & I would have to wait a whole week. Goodbye!
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North Shore might have gotten a little too big for their britches.
Extortion disguised as donations aside, to not take 2 healthy cats because you have no room is inexcusable.
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With their application process, its harder to adopt a pet at North Shore than it is to buy a gun in NY.
Everything at NS is donated and the workers volunteer. They are missing out on a lot of potential homes for animals because some simply cant afford the fees.
Extortion disguised as donations aside, to not take 2 healthy cats because you have no room is inexcusable.
With their application process, its harder to adopt a pet at North Shore than it is to buy a gun in NY.
Everything at NS is donated and the workers volunteer. They are missing out on a lot of potential homes for animals because some simply cant afford the fees.
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MisterX wrote:
North Shore might have gotten a little too big for their britches.
Extortion disguised as donations aside, to not take 2 healthy cats because you have no room is inexcusable.
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With their application process, its harder to adopt a pet at North Shore than it is to buy a gun in NY.
Everything at NS is donated and the workers volunteer. They are missing out on a lot of potential homes for animals because some simply cant afford the fees.
They do not accept local strays unless they are dropped off at night when no one can deny them. Unless the guards see you. Sure they are a no kill shelter, but they are also a no accept shelter. As far as all employees being volonteers, I used to bartend and alot of the employees would come to my bar for happyhour. Only about 1/3 are non-paid workers. the rest are working stiffs like you and me.
North Shore might have gotten a little too big for their britches.
Extortion disguised as donations aside, to not take 2 healthy cats because you have no room is inexcusable.
With their application process, its harder to adopt a pet at North Shore than it is to buy a gun in NY.
Everything at NS is donated and the workers volunteer. They are missing out on a lot of potential homes for animals because some simply cant afford the fees.
They do not accept local strays unless they are dropped off at night when no one can deny them. Unless the guards see you. Sure they are a no kill shelter, but they are also a no accept shelter. As far as all employees being volonteers, I used to bartend and alot of the employees would come to my bar for happyhour. Only about 1/3 are non-paid workers. the rest are working stiffs like you and me.
Haven't been shopping in a while , but from my understanding it is anywhere from $800-3,500 to buy a dog from a mill, seems like 275 is not such a bad deal. Please keep in mind they are feeding and caring for dozens and dozens of animals every day. Not saying you or I should pay for someone else's negligence, (and we make donations to our local shelter on a regular basis) but if you are an animal lover you will get the point.
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I have 2 weird looking mutts from North Shore. I adopted them 2 years ago and if I remember correctly the fee was $175 per dog. I would rather adopt a dog and pay a fee than buy a dog that was breed for resale.
LOL...Mr. Potato head in your avatar...
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I have 2 weird looking mutts from North Shore. I adopted them 2 years ago and if I remember correctly the fee was $175 per dog. I would rather adopt a dog and pay a fee than buy a dog that was breed for resale.
LOL...Mr. Potato head in your avatar...
Rich why does George always have the same ugly face on when holding Bass up?:
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Over the course of a year or so our two very old cats and not so old rabbit died. We decided to get a puppy and a kitten. For about a month we checked out just about every shelter in Suffolk county. There were plenty of older dogs and cats but no young ones and a lot of the animals did not seem in great shape.
Finally one Saturday we called Brookhaven Shelter, they had kittens and we ended up taking 2 home. I think the donation was about $25 each with coupons for ?free? neutering and a ?free? vet checkup. What nobody said was that the ?free? vet visit didn?t include any of the ?extras? (shots, flee medicine, tests) (about $100.00 each) The free neutering didn?t include anesthesia (about $50.00 each)
TOTAL ($350 for cats)
A week later, on my 12 year olds insistence, we stopped at NSAL to look for a puppy. They had tons and were the only shelter that had puppies! All of their animals looked a lot more ?adoptable? then the other shelters. We got a great mixed breed for about $135 donation. The place is definitely a business, from the ?adoption interview?, background check (though they didn?t call the references) to the ?after sale? marketing. We had our own vet do the neutering but with their rebate check, I think it was cheaper then the cats. Vet bills, medicine, etc. still ran about $200 for the first few months. According to the papers the puppy came from Memphis TN.
TOTAL for 1st few months $685 !!!!! Pets ain?t cheap!!!!!!
That was almost 2 years ago now and everyone is doing great.
Finally one Saturday we called Brookhaven Shelter, they had kittens and we ended up taking 2 home. I think the donation was about $25 each with coupons for ?free? neutering and a ?free? vet checkup. What nobody said was that the ?free? vet visit didn?t include any of the ?extras? (shots, flee medicine, tests) (about $100.00 each) The free neutering didn?t include anesthesia (about $50.00 each)
TOTAL ($350 for cats)
A week later, on my 12 year olds insistence, we stopped at NSAL to look for a puppy. They had tons and were the only shelter that had puppies! All of their animals looked a lot more ?adoptable? then the other shelters. We got a great mixed breed for about $135 donation. The place is definitely a business, from the ?adoption interview?, background check (though they didn?t call the references) to the ?after sale? marketing. We had our own vet do the neutering but with their rebate check, I think it was cheaper then the cats. Vet bills, medicine, etc. still ran about $200 for the first few months. According to the papers the puppy came from Memphis TN.
TOTAL for 1st few months $685 !!!!! Pets ain?t cheap!!!!!!
That was almost 2 years ago now and everyone is doing great.
In the past two years I've adopted two dogs, one from Yonkers municipal shelter and the other from the ARF in East Hampton. Both were full breeds. The fee was no more than $100 per dog. That was the best $200 I ever invested.
Just for the principal of the matter, I would not pay $275 for an adopted dog as there are plenty of places around that are not in business for themselves trying to pay for their McMansions with those adoption fees.
Just for the principal of the matter, I would not pay $275 for an adopted dog as there are plenty of places around that are not in business for themselves trying to pay for their McMansions with those adoption fees.
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the problem is, there is good and bad everywhere...
elder abusers like to work in nursing homes...
child abusers like to work with kids...
I supervised a humane society once where I fired people who enjoyed their 'power' over the animals.
I couldn't give raises to the good workers, therefore, they didn't stay...
-BTW, donations of blankets, cleaning supplies, papertowels, etc... instead of that check,
that may not go where you want it to, may be the way to go.....every place has a 'need list'....
money is tight everywhere.
often, the extra doesn't go back to the animals.
there are 'no kill shelters' that are nothing but prison camps lacking funds because the estates 'left to the animals'
weren't sold and used for the shelter.
There are Hoarders, who think no one can care properly, so they make adoptions impossible.
Their (cats) get little medical care and actually run loose breeding!
Other shelters don't want to go after 'one of their own'...
all i can say is try to support the ones who seem to be doing right.
there are heartwarming stories in each place...
lives have been saved. most of those who work there give their hearts.... til they burnout...
how about the sick bostards who bought cheap dogs for evil intent?
where do you think 'free to good home' ends up?
These are a couple reasons why you pay more, not as likely to dump it.
the cleanest places I've ever seen, euthanized before the cage got too dirty.
is death better than going to a neglectful home... no food,water, shelter, in the mud, in the rain....so thin their head looks huge.
so needy they claw at you for love, for food, for touch, rips my freakin heart out.
i saw this stuff as a Dog Warden.
I saw how these people were not prosecuted cause the city didn't want to pay for them to be vetted and held for months for court.
euthanzine is so much cheaper... how about the children or elders in that same household...? you think they have good care??
we need better laws but they also make things worse.
when ever I get deep into this, 'they' say, well the money needs to be spent on children who suffer the same. end of argument...
there is no easy answer...
all I know for sure is they need us.
they need us not to close our eyes, because that does not ease their pain.
humans domesticated them, then don't want to care for them,
meanwhile what is the dog's crime??
and speaking of crime... we educate, medicate, recreate,..... and house those who have done crimes...but they are 'human'.
as you see, i could go on and on about this... I won't....
there is no end...
What keeps me sane is helping the GOOD when I can.
Not closing my eyes to the BAD, bringing attention to it.
and repeat.... repeat... repeat....
elder abusers like to work in nursing homes...
child abusers like to work with kids...
I supervised a humane society once where I fired people who enjoyed their 'power' over the animals.
I couldn't give raises to the good workers, therefore, they didn't stay...
-BTW, donations of blankets, cleaning supplies, papertowels, etc... instead of that check,
that may not go where you want it to, may be the way to go.....every place has a 'need list'....
money is tight everywhere.
often, the extra doesn't go back to the animals.
there are 'no kill shelters' that are nothing but prison camps lacking funds because the estates 'left to the animals'
weren't sold and used for the shelter.
There are Hoarders, who think no one can care properly, so they make adoptions impossible.
Their (cats) get little medical care and actually run loose breeding!
Other shelters don't want to go after 'one of their own'...
all i can say is try to support the ones who seem to be doing right.
there are heartwarming stories in each place...
lives have been saved. most of those who work there give their hearts.... til they burnout...
how about the sick bostards who bought cheap dogs for evil intent?
where do you think 'free to good home' ends up?
These are a couple reasons why you pay more, not as likely to dump it.
the cleanest places I've ever seen, euthanized before the cage got too dirty.
is death better than going to a neglectful home... no food,water, shelter, in the mud, in the rain....so thin their head looks huge.
so needy they claw at you for love, for food, for touch, rips my freakin heart out.
i saw this stuff as a Dog Warden.
I saw how these people were not prosecuted cause the city didn't want to pay for them to be vetted and held for months for court.
euthanzine is so much cheaper... how about the children or elders in that same household...? you think they have good care??
we need better laws but they also make things worse.
when ever I get deep into this, 'they' say, well the money needs to be spent on children who suffer the same. end of argument...
there is no easy answer...
all I know for sure is they need us.
they need us not to close our eyes, because that does not ease their pain.
humans domesticated them, then don't want to care for them,
meanwhile what is the dog's crime??
and speaking of crime... we educate, medicate, recreate,..... and house those who have done crimes...but they are 'human'.
as you see, i could go on and on about this... I won't....
there is no end...
What keeps me sane is helping the GOOD when I can.
Not closing my eyes to the BAD, bringing attention to it.
and repeat.... repeat... repeat....
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1dogshy, you should come down to Baltimore County in MD and check out the SPCA. It's on 4-5 acres and not only accepts dogs and cats, but any animals. Including livestock. The dogs are taken out into the field every day to run and play with the vols/employees. When you go there you are encouraged to take the dogs outside and play with them. This is a no kill shelter. I lived in NY for 38 years and never experienced anything like this. The place is incredible. I donate $$$ every year, but considering your advice, I'll do the blankets, etc...
I just don't like people getting rich off of "adoption animals" like those running NSAL do.
I just don't like people getting rich off of "adoption animals" like those running NSAL do.
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Atunahead,
That is great...
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and there are lots that really do a fantastic job!!
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When you see a place like that, you don't mind writing a check.
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might be hard to show up with $50. worth of papertowels...
...... on a dif note: I just got my cow fix, for a minute...
drove to my tax lady's house, they have a dairy barn...
I was asked... "You ARE stopping at the Barn... aren't you !??"
"Why Certainly...!!" calves, heifers, cows....
all well fed and cared for
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family farm... a dying art...
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i love cows, they were all checkin me out.....
my hair smells like silage....
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That is great...
and there are lots that really do a fantastic job!!
When you see a place like that, you don't mind writing a check.
might be hard to show up with $50. worth of papertowels...
...... on a dif note: I just got my cow fix, for a minute...
drove to my tax lady's house, they have a dairy barn...
I was asked... "You ARE stopping at the Barn... aren't you !??"
"Why Certainly...!!" calves, heifers, cows....
all well fed and cared for
i love cows, they were all checkin me out.....
my hair smells like silage....
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1dogshy wrote:
Atunahead,
That is great...
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and there are lots that really do a fantastic job!!
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When you see a place like that, you don't mind writing a check.
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might be hard to show up with $50. worth of papertowels...
...... on a dif note: I just got my cow fix, for a minute...
drove to my tax lady's house, they have a dairy barn...
I was asked... "You ARE stopping at the Barn... aren't you !??"
"Why Certainly...!!" calves, heifers, cows....
all well fed and cared for
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family farm... a dying art...
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i love cows, they were all checkin me out.....
my hair smells like silage....
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All of the stuff I mentioned earlier is located about 25 minutes from downtown B'more. It's about 5 mins from me and I try to go every weekend.
Atunahead,
That is great...
and there are lots that really do a fantastic job!!
When you see a place like that, you don't mind writing a check.
might be hard to show up with $50. worth of papertowels...
...... on a dif note: I just got my cow fix, for a minute...
drove to my tax lady's house, they have a dairy barn...
I was asked... "You ARE stopping at the Barn... aren't you !??"
"Why Certainly...!!" calves, heifers, cows....
all well fed and cared for
i love cows, they were all checkin me out.....
my hair smells like silage....
All of the stuff I mentioned earlier is located about 25 minutes from downtown B'more. It's about 5 mins from me and I try to go every weekend.
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