[KILSONG]

Electric reels were not popular for inshore fishing in th US though the use of electric reel is dominant in Korea and Japan.
But it can change soon. The traditional electric reel is very heavy and reguires a heavy battery and code. But new Japanese electric reels are as light as 26 - 27 oz and don't require battery code as it has built-in small battery. So you can jig with the electric reels for long hours, you can cast or you can even mug by moving around the boat freely.

I am not in favor of electric reels and I ask not to bring any electric reels on my charter. My ultimate goal is to land a swordfish on jigs daytime by jigging 1n 2000 ft deep manually.

However I feel the new trend is coming even for jigging cod.

This post edited by KILSONG 04:38 PM 02/18/2008

 

[capttrav]

All i know is that the day time swords really fight when they get to the top and warm up. I would want nothing to do with reeling in 2000 feet of line especially with no fish. I want to do the trip at night for the jigging. It also seems imperative to have a light on the rig for the day time becasue it is pitch black down 2000ft. What would be your solution for the light. They use a $60 light that doesn;t crush under the water load.

 

[Codfisher]

My friend has 2 Shimano Beastmasters which he purchased in Japan. Very impressive to say the least. My only concern is how will these reels stand up under heavy use. The are basically mini computers attached to a fishing reel. Price was very reasonable considering what the reel has to offer.

 

[KILSONG]

capttrav wrote:
All i know is that the day time swords really fight when they get to the top and warm up. I would want nothing to do with reeling in 2000 feet of line especially with no fish. I want to do the trip at night for the jigging. It also seems imperative to have a light on the rig for the day time becasue it is pitch black down 2000ft. What would be your solution for the light. They use a $60 light that doesn;t crush under the water load.
Jigging 2000 ft is not easy. That is why I said it is my ultimate goal. But I think jigging 2000 ft is not impossible if there is little current. I have to do some research how they catch swordfish daytime. Once I caught two swordfish on jigs at night, I want to do different things which very few ever attempted.

 

[gmann]

Kil,

Im not saying that the feat is unreachable but keep in mind that the daytime sword fishery is using 10-15 pounds of breakaway lead to keep the baits on the bottom which is exactly where the swords are 2,000 feet down. You would never reach bottom with a conventional jig it would keep going horizontal unless you weighted it with something. You could use a glow jig once down along with a light positioned 5-10 feet above the jig and you could be in business. Most bites are reached as soon as you hit bottom over the right structure

 

[KILSONG]

Glenn, If I have to jig with 10 - 15 lbs weight, there is no hope at at all if they don't bite immediately as I have no intention to use electric reels. I just hope there are some areas where current is mininal and I could use light weight jigs.

 

[tunafever]

You could probably use a seperate setup or downrigger plus ball to get down with jig and then set the release/rubber band so that it can withstand jigging (without feeling the weight of the ball) but break with the pressure of a fish. I dont know if that sounds like it makes any sense but visually I can see it working.

 

[chumslk]

Jigged with a 8 oz. jig in 900' in ak. Even went down to 6 oz. at one point in 600-700'. The conditions would have to be perfect and the more compact the jig the better ( least amount of surface area to decrease deflection ). The more hardware you put on lights etc. The harder it 'll be to reach bottom. Maybe the Japanese can design one and come up with the marketing to match ?

 

[Jigalow]

How about attach the jig to a 10 - 15# weight via 6# line or copper rigging wire so when it hit's 2000' you can flip it in gear and break the weight away. Then you jig for a few minutes until the line blows out, then reel up and do it all over again.

The next problem is line capacity, you'll have to use 20 -30# braid to reach 2000' or jig with a 30W... Either way you'll have arms like Popeye in no time

 

[mrbill1]

It's not easy bring up a jig from the deep. Late December 07, I sent a jig down until I hit the bottom of the spool. We were in 8000' of water. I was using a 665W 2-speed and it was spooled with 80# braid. Probably around 450-500 yards.

Fishing was very slow so I sent the flatside glow jig down. I was hoping to find another current down deeper. Wasn't there. The angle of the desending line never changed. I very slowly jigged it up with no results. It must have taken me about ten minutes.

Did I do it again. NO.

I went and got a beer.

This post edited by mrbill1 08:44 PM 02/19/2008

 

[capttrav]

I thought of attaching to down ball and/or extra weight but the rpoblem is tangles. The rigs they are using to get the squid down is art work. I was in Marathon a couple weeks ago and we discussed this in detail with the guys doing it. I would almost think of finding the right jig and give it a go when everything looks perfect like seeing the bait and posiible already seeing/having a hookup. If you need a break maybe the boat could jig it. They all said that the bite can be furious and quick. You usualy get the bite in 10minutes like said before. It may be even hard to fell the bite. I don't know. All the guys I talked to though say that is so much cooler seeing and fighting a sword in the day, and I'd have to say I agree even without doing it myself.