thanks for all the input everyone, went shopping again and I am rethinking sea pro. looked at 23 parker cc, b/w outrage 21', and 232 mako limited edition, i know i'm in a different class, but i really want to fish. feed back and opinions would greatly be appreciated. i really fell in love with the 232 mako. has twin 135 ficht, black hull/ t-top , loaded. thanks.
new choices for 22' - 23' c/c , not sea pro
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rehookdup
forget how they look in the showroom,
or at the dock,
TAKE IT OUT FOR A RIDE ON A SNOTTY DAY !
you will quickly get your answer about the boat you want to purchase.
ride it into a head sea, ride it with a beam sea, and a following sea.
take the anchor and drop it, see how the boat sits at anchor.
try a drift or two, see how the boat drifts.
i almost made a huge mistake by not testing a boat a few years ago, i fell in love with the 31 ocean master at the boat show, tried every local dealer to get a test ride, no one had one available, i ended up flying to florida and chartering a 31 ocean master just to check the ride, thank god i did, it would have been a $120,000+ mistake if i didn't.
the boat rode so hard in the sea, i left my kidneys and a few teeth on that boat !
needless to say, there was no ocean master in my future. (hull has since been modified and it is currently a decent boat)
FOUR STROKE is the way to go, ESPECIALLY with twins, there is about a 20% difference in price between 2 and 4 stroke, you will make up that difference in gas within 2 years, plus no oil to deal with and they are quiet, quiet , quiet.
i just got a 115hp yamaha 4 stroke for my carolina skiff, it so quite and fuel efficient. the only way to go now.
BOAT OPINION- not many people are qualified to express a learned opinion on how boats ride, as they have not had the opportunity to ride on many different boats in various sea conditions, the boat that mr. x reccomends might be from one trip on a perfect weather day on that boat, toss some wind and waves in and the boat is now a different animal.
if you want smooth riding boat, the deadrise MUST be atleast 23.5 degrees, any less and you will sacrifice a smooth ride.
my suggestion is CONTENDER, go take a ride in a contender 23 or 25 on a REALLY BAD DAY, a day you would not normally go out on, i think you will be impressed.
other good choices are cee vee, sea craft and regulator.
these are the better riding center consoles on the market.
you will pay more, but your body parts will thank you.
if you have more specific question , please feel free to ask.
ps. i have owned 15 different center consoles, have been fishing 25 years, i currently own a 25 foot contender. i dock it in montauk in the fall, and run 120+ miles offshore without fear because of the this boat.
i have also taken many fellow boat owners out on my boat to fish, these guys own, mako, grady white, proline, parker, steiger craft and more. they all come off the boat with a totally different point of view on how a boat could ride. several have gotten contenders in the past few years.
check out the 23 with a single 250hp, or if you can go the extra $, the 25 with twin 200hp.
forget how they look in the showroom,
or at the dock,
TAKE IT OUT FOR A RIDE ON A SNOTTY DAY !
you will quickly get your answer about the boat you want to purchase.
ride it into a head sea, ride it with a beam sea, and a following sea.
take the anchor and drop it, see how the boat sits at anchor.
try a drift or two, see how the boat drifts.
i almost made a huge mistake by not testing a boat a few years ago, i fell in love with the 31 ocean master at the boat show, tried every local dealer to get a test ride, no one had one available, i ended up flying to florida and chartering a 31 ocean master just to check the ride, thank god i did, it would have been a $120,000+ mistake if i didn't.
the boat rode so hard in the sea, i left my kidneys and a few teeth on that boat !
needless to say, there was no ocean master in my future. (hull has since been modified and it is currently a decent boat)
FOUR STROKE is the way to go, ESPECIALLY with twins, there is about a 20% difference in price between 2 and 4 stroke, you will make up that difference in gas within 2 years, plus no oil to deal with and they are quiet, quiet , quiet.
i just got a 115hp yamaha 4 stroke for my carolina skiff, it so quite and fuel efficient. the only way to go now.
BOAT OPINION- not many people are qualified to express a learned opinion on how boats ride, as they have not had the opportunity to ride on many different boats in various sea conditions, the boat that mr. x reccomends might be from one trip on a perfect weather day on that boat, toss some wind and waves in and the boat is now a different animal.
if you want smooth riding boat, the deadrise MUST be atleast 23.5 degrees, any less and you will sacrifice a smooth ride.
my suggestion is CONTENDER, go take a ride in a contender 23 or 25 on a REALLY BAD DAY, a day you would not normally go out on, i think you will be impressed.
other good choices are cee vee, sea craft and regulator.
these are the better riding center consoles on the market.
you will pay more, but your body parts will thank you.
if you have more specific question , please feel free to ask.
ps. i have owned 15 different center consoles, have been fishing 25 years, i currently own a 25 foot contender. i dock it in montauk in the fall, and run 120+ miles offshore without fear because of the this boat.
i have also taken many fellow boat owners out on my boat to fish, these guys own, mako, grady white, proline, parker, steiger craft and more. they all come off the boat with a totally different point of view on how a boat could ride. several have gotten contenders in the past few years.
check out the 23 with a single 250hp, or if you can go the extra $, the 25 with twin 200hp.
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Rehookdup,
What megalodon said about a deepvee in a rough sea is very true. However, it is all a trade off. When you go with a deepvee hull you are going to be trading comfort in running a rough sea for increased fuel consumption and rolling in even a small chop while drifting.
I have fished inshore on deepvee boats and found the rolling a little uncomfortable. Things to consider when picking a hull are what are you going to be using it for. A lot of offshore trolling, a deepvee hands down. Inshore and offshore drifting you may want the steadyness of a modified vee. Like I said, a deep vee will provide comfort and security while running in a rough sea. But it will cost more to run and roll while drifting in even a small sea. A modified vee will be more stable and cheaper to operate, but more pounding and wet in a rough sea.
By the way, I love that new Contender walk around.
What megalodon said about a deepvee in a rough sea is very true. However, it is all a trade off. When you go with a deepvee hull you are going to be trading comfort in running a rough sea for increased fuel consumption and rolling in even a small chop while drifting.
I have fished inshore on deepvee boats and found the rolling a little uncomfortable. Things to consider when picking a hull are what are you going to be using it for. A lot of offshore trolling, a deepvee hands down. Inshore and offshore drifting you may want the steadyness of a modified vee. Like I said, a deep vee will provide comfort and security while running in a rough sea. But it will cost more to run and roll while drifting in even a small sea. A modified vee will be more stable and cheaper to operate, but more pounding and wet in a rough sea.
By the way, I love that new Contender walk around.
You're starting to compare apples to oranges. Although I think Sea Pro and Mako are of similar quality, you can't fairly compare the Sea Pro 220 to a Mako 232 with twin engines. There must be a $15,000-$20,000 price difference too.
Decide what you want and then shop for your best deal and dealership.
Decide what you want and then shop for your best deal and dealership.
Gforrest, he said that he is leaving the Seapro class and looking up.
Rehookdup, I love the Mako and the contender. I had a 23 Mako with twin 115's. The boat was so seaworthy, reliable and fast. Ditto about the Ficht; there was a big write-up in several boating magazines about the recalls and design flaws. If you can't afford four strokes try Suzuki or Yamaha fuel injections.
The Contender is also an awesome boat. I'm glad you are looking in this price range. If you go for a 12 or 15 year loan, your payments will only be an extra $50 to $75 a month more. But there is no price you can put on safety and piece of mind!
Rehookdup, I love the Mako and the contender. I had a 23 Mako with twin 115's. The boat was so seaworthy, reliable and fast. Ditto about the Ficht; there was a big write-up in several boating magazines about the recalls and design flaws. If you can't afford four strokes try Suzuki or Yamaha fuel injections.
The Contender is also an awesome boat. I'm glad you are looking in this price range. If you go for a 12 or 15 year loan, your payments will only be an extra $50 to $75 a month more. But there is no price you can put on safety and piece of mind!
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