Thanks guys , i was looking at the lami and calstar as a choice of rods. I can always custom them to my fitting. Most rods that are over 7' are beef rods and i perfer a softer action for togs since i am using PP line. My specs for an ideal rod for PB tog fishing is 7'6" or longer with at least 18" butt with enough backbone for 6-12 ozs. I've seen a few rods that are custom made i can't remember the blanks they used , but i'll keep searching or remember the blanks he used. Anyways thanks for the info and have a HAPPY AND SAFE NEW YEARS!!!!!