[PURSUITWA]

August 4, 2008 (Computerworld) Researchers at MIT say they have made an energy storage breakthrough that could transform solar power from an alternative energy source to a mainstream source. The university is calling the solar project a major advancement in energy research......

Maybe this is why oil is getting tanked

MIT breakthrough

This post edited by PURSUITWA 02:36 PM 08/05/2008

 

[MakoMike]

I don't know why all the news outlets are pitching that story so much toward solar energy. That is where it MIGHT have its biggest long term impact, but if they have indeed come up with a much more efficient way to produce free hydrogen, we could be burning that stuff in our cars in relatively no time!

 

[PaddleOn]

I've always felt that solar is the obvious and correct direction to head in the search for a better way to power the earths energy needs.We have got to get away from the same old same old.

Thanks for this thread PURSUITWA

 

[likeitreallyis]

but I thought the world's energy crisis will be solved now that they can drill for oil off my beach...

The President said so so I believe it.

 

[Scott1280]

likeitreallyis wrote:
but I thought the world's energy crisis will be solved now that they can drill for oil off my beach...

The President said so so I believe it.

No ONE Solution Bob!!

Drilling is only PART of the solution, just like your Volt!!

Although it looks like the Japanese are going to kick Detroit's ass AGAIN........

Nissan Motor unveils new prototype electric car
Aug 6 04:59 AM US/Eastern

Nissan Motor Co. unveiled a new prototype electric vehicle Wednesday with batteries twice as powerful as conventional technology, aiming to take a lead in zero-emission cars.

Japan's third-largest automaker said the front-wheel drive, boxy-shaped car has a newly developed 80 kilowatt motor with advanced lithium-ion batteries installed under the vehicle's floor to avoid taking up space.

The laminated batteries, jointly developed with electronics giant NEC Corp., pack twice the electric power of conventional nickel-metal hydride batteries currently used in hybrid and electric cars, it said.

Nissan aims to start selling an electric car in the United States and Japan in 2010 and the rest of the world in 2012. It will have a new "unique bodystyle" that is not based on any existing model, the company said.

Nissan has been slower than rivals Toyota Motor Corp. and Honda Motor Co. to embrace petrol-electric hybrids, but it aims to become the industry leader in electric vehicles.

Such cars have so far failed to break into the mainstream, partly because of their limited battery life.

Nissan is also developing hydrogen fuel-cell cars as well as its own hybrid system, betting that zero-emission vehicles will take a 15 percent share of the global auto market in the future.

The company also unveiled a prototype hybrid which will also be launched in the US and Japan in 2010, as well as a new, slimmer fuel cell stack with double the power density of previous ones and 35 percent lower costs.

 

[jpd]

No price on the Nissan?

The Tesla Roadster also went with LiON batteries instead of NiMH, but the Tesla is EXPENSIVE.

This post edited by jpd 10:23 AM 08/06/2008

 

[MakoMike]

If this new technology is as good as they say it is, the electric car is dead! We'll all be driving fuel cell powered vehicles or hydrogen powered vehicles, both of which are zero emissions.

 

[Scott1280]

MakoMike wrote:
If this new technology is as good as they say it is, the electric car is dead! We'll all be driving fuel cell powered vehicles or hydrogen powered vehicles, both of which are zero emissions.
Problem with Hydrogen is the amount of electricity required to extract it in the first place. We'd need ALLOT more nuclear power plants to produce more electricity to go along with the new hydrogen fuel.

 

[likeitreallyis]

Scott1280 wrote:
MakoMike wrote:
If this new technology is as good as they say it is, the electric car is dead! We'll all be driving fuel cell powered vehicles or hydrogen powered vehicles, both of which are zero emissions.
Problem with Hydrogen is the amount of electricity required to extract it in the first place. We'd need ALLOT more nuclear power plants to produce more electricity to go along with the new hydrogen fuel.

wow a non political solution that makes sense

 

[AZFISHKILLER]

Exxon is probably buying it even as we debate it. We will never see it.

 

[Scott1280]

likeitreallyis wrote:
Scott1280 wrote:
MakoMike wrote:
If this new technology is as good as they say it is, the electric car is dead! We'll all be driving fuel cell powered vehicles or hydrogen powered vehicles, both of which are zero emissions.
Problem with Hydrogen is the amount of electricity required to extract it in the first place. We'd need ALLOT more nuclear power plants to produce more electricity to go along with the new hydrogen fuel.

wow a non political solution that makes sense

You only like that one because nobody said the word "OIL". You know, OIL!!! OIL!
OIL!
OIL!!



BTW Bob - If you would take an honest look, you'd see I'm MUCH more driven by ideology than by political parties. The democrats just happen to have a platform that i disagree with 90% of the time.

 

[MakoMike]

Scott1280 wrote:
MakoMike wrote:
If this new technology is as good as they say it is, the electric car is dead! We'll all be driving fuel cell powered vehicles or hydrogen powered vehicles, both of which are zero emissions.
Problem with Hydrogen is the amount of electricity required to extract it in the first place. We'd need ALLOT more nuclear power plants to produce more electricity to go along with the new hydrogen fuel.

Scott, you need to go back and read the article! The "discovery" is a new way to split water into oxygen and hydrogen with realtively little solar generated electric power.

 

[Brenainn]

MakoMike wrote:
Scott1280 wrote:
MakoMike wrote:
If this new technology is as good as they say it is, the electric car is dead! We'll all be driving fuel cell powered vehicles or hydrogen powered vehicles, both of which are zero emissions.
Problem with Hydrogen is the amount of electricity required to extract it in the first place. We'd need ALLOT more nuclear power plants to produce more electricity to go along with the new hydrogen fuel.

Scott, you need to go back and read the article! The "discovery" is a new way to split water into oxygen and hydrogen with realtively little solar generated electric power.

Ive been trying to tell you guys about these ideas for months!!!

 

[Scott1280]

Brenainn wrote:
MakoMike wrote:
Scott1280 wrote:
MakoMike wrote:
If this new technology is as good as they say it is, the electric car is dead! We'll all be driving fuel cell powered vehicles or hydrogen powered vehicles, both of which are zero emissions.
Problem with Hydrogen is the amount of electricity required to extract it in the first place. We'd need ALLOT more nuclear power plants to produce more electricity to go along with the new hydrogen fuel.

Scott, you need to go back and read the article! The "discovery" is a new way to split water into oxygen and hydrogen with realtively little solar generated electric power.

Ive been trying to tell you guys about these ideas for months!!!

LINKS!!! WE NEED LINKS!!!

This post edited by Scott1280 07:35 PM 08/06/2008

 

[surfphisher]

Scott1280 wrote:
Brenainn wrote:
MakoMike wrote:
Scott1280 wrote:
MakoMike wrote:
If this new technology is as good as they say it is, the electric car is dead! We'll all be driving fuel cell powered vehicles or hydrogen powered vehicles, both of which are zero emissions.
Problem with Hydrogen is the amount of electricity required to extract it in the first place. We'd need ALLOT more nuclear power plants to produce more electricity to go along with the new hydrogen fuel.

Scott, you need to go back and read the article! The "discovery" is a new way to split water into oxygen and hydrogen with realtively little solar generated electric power.

Ive been trying to tell you guys about these ideas for months!!!

LINKS!!! WE NEED LINKS!!!

Read some of the comments linked at the bottom of the article. Some very nice discussions, with links offered. Looks like they may have an efficient way of producing hydrogen.

 

[Scott1280]

MakoMike wrote:
Scott1280 wrote:
MakoMike wrote:
If this new technology is as good as they say it is, the electric car is dead! We'll all be driving fuel cell powered vehicles or hydrogen powered vehicles, both of which are zero emissions.
Problem with Hydrogen is the amount of electricity required to extract it in the first place. We'd need ALLOT more nuclear power plants to produce more electricity to go along with the new hydrogen fuel.

Scott, you need to go back and read the article! The "discovery" is a new way to split water into oxygen and hydrogen with realtively little solar generated electric power.
Sorry Mike - never got past the first 3 paragraphs. Sounds good, but Hydrogen always reminds me of the Hindenburg!

 

[Brenainn]

only 1/2 an amp needed to "fracture" water into hydrogen

Scott, please take 10 mins to check this out, thanks B