hey guys after standing on the beach for over 30 years i am getting a used entry level boat. its a 19 ft bayliner a a good price. question should i trailer or store at a marina. what kind of money would i be talking to store at a marina in a rack and can anyone reccament one near westchester thanks in advance
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Take my advice and get a slip-you may be gung ho the first year and its nice to trailer to different locales(which you can do at any rate)but nothing beats having that boat sitting pretty and waiting to go-no ,fuss, muss or bother.After a while trailering gets real old and may diminish your enthusiasm. I would say on the Island at a private marina rates run from 50-100/ft. with the low end being a bargain
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Good Luck
Take my advice and get a slip-you may be gung ho the first year and its nice to trailer to different locales(which you can do at any rate)but nothing beats having that boat sitting pretty and waiting to go-no ,fuss, muss or bother.After a while trailering gets real old and may diminish your enthusiasm. I would say on the Island at a private marina rates run from 50-100/ft. with the low end being a bargain
Good luck with your new boat, BOBBYM - take the time to either have someone check it over REALLY GOOD, if you are not yourself qualified. It has been said, and I believe it....90% of boating problems are electrical. So, the first thing I did was rip out all the wires, and put in new, and weatherproofed them.
I'd like to mention, that if anyone needs a slip in Gerritsen Beach, mine will be available in March. Across the water from Friday's, I have a 25 foot cabin cruiser, and paid $1400 last year. Running water and electric. If anyone is interested, send me a PM.
I'd like to mention, that if anyone needs a slip in Gerritsen Beach, mine will be available in March. Across the water from Friday's, I have a 25 foot cabin cruiser, and paid $1400 last year. Running water and electric. If anyone is interested, send me a PM.
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I,ve had boats all of my life and I'll never keep one in the water again unless it's behind my house.1 If you have a slip it's like haveing another wife, you must check on it daily. is the tide to high for the lines, is the pump working, will your equipment still be there when you get ready to go out? 2, bottom must be painted yearly, motor will corrode from constant emersion mold and mildew will form on all equip left on board. 3 Cost, for the price of a slip and storage or transport home for the winter you can buy a good trailer, It's home where you can clean it or work on it to your hearts content. 4, Flexability I fish from March through December. Most marinas kick you out at the end of September. I go where the fish are North shore, south shore, Orient, Montauk all are with in reach. It cost me about $65 for yearly permits for all of the state and county ramps (sr.discount). The biggest problem with trailoring is lack of experience, Get a good trailer and take the time to set it up properly. I launch and retrieve a 22 ft. boat by myself with a hand winch under all conditions with a minimum of headaches. The key is take your time. Once you get over 25 ft it can be more of a problem, but for the smaller rigs a trailer is the only way to go. Keeping it on a rack will solve some of the problems but It would never work for me. I fish 24 hrs. a day and the marina people need to know in advance when you are going out and returning.
I,ve had boats all of my life and I'll never keep one in the water again unless it's behind my house.1 If you have a slip it's like haveing another wife, you must check on it daily. is the tide to high for the lines, is the pump working, will your equipment still be there when you get ready to go out? 2, bottom must be painted yearly, motor will corrode from constant emersion mold and mildew will form on all equip left on board. 3 Cost, for the price of a slip and storage or transport home for the winter you can buy a good trailer, It's home where you can clean it or work on it to your hearts content. 4, Flexability I fish from March through December. Most marinas kick you out at the end of September. I go where the fish are North shore, south shore, Orient, Montauk all are with in reach. It cost me about $65 for yearly permits for all of the state and county ramps (sr.discount). The biggest problem with trailoring is lack of experience, Get a good trailer and take the time to set it up properly. I launch and retrieve a 22 ft. boat by myself with a hand winch under all conditions with a minimum of headaches. The key is take your time. Once you get over 25 ft it can be more of a problem, but for the smaller rigs a trailer is the only way to go. Keeping it on a rack will solve some of the problems but It would never work for me. I fish 24 hrs. a day and the marina people need to know in advance when you are going out and returning.
Spygull makes some very good points! I do both. I have adocked 23' and trailer a 16' skiff. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. With a docked boat many times you have to bring down your rods, electronics, cooler with lunch, beverages etc. and clean it up before you leave. On the other hand with a trailered boat you can(depending how safe your neighborhood is) have all your gear loaded on the boat (only have to load the cooler and bait) then drive to the ramp! With my small boat I like to come home, take a short nap-then clean the fish, clean the boat and tackle while I'm having my kick-in-the-pants cup of coffee. Boat stays nicer, rods stay nicer, and I can do things at MY convienience!
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Good points by spy and Hip BUT-you say you are a 30 year vet so you are probably in you r 40's or so.I'm sure spy and hip have been boating for a long time and have mucho trailering experience.You Don't want to go thru the learning curve of trailering if you don't have to or at least do it at a leisurely pace.True you must paint the bottom -but leaving your engine up will prclude corrosion problems-fresh water dockside will keep your boat in shape-I keep my equiptment on board under lock and key and never had problems. And also remember the SCHMOOZE factor.Nothing like drinks topside with your buddies at anytime,dock parties etc.A more well rounded and relaxing experience.You can always pull your boat out on a trailer and fish other locales if necessary
Good points by spy and Hip BUT-you say you are a 30 year vet so you are probably in you r 40's or so.I'm sure spy and hip have been boating for a long time and have mucho trailering experience.You Don't want to go thru the learning curve of trailering if you don't have to or at least do it at a leisurely pace.True you must paint the bottom -but leaving your engine up will prclude corrosion problems-fresh water dockside will keep your boat in shape-I keep my equiptment on board under lock and key and never had problems. And also remember the SCHMOOZE factor.Nothing like drinks topside with your buddies at anytime,dock parties etc.A more well rounded and relaxing experience.You can always pull your boat out on a trailer and fish other locales if necessary
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i would never trailer my boat again i find you get more use when its docked as far as the rods and electronics how hard is it to take 3 rods a small cooler for ice its better than sitting waiting at the entrance ramp on a saturday or sunday morning for a 1/2 hour
bobby, if you hear of any rack or dry storage in westchester let me know. i live in sullivan county and usually keep my boat on the trailer at the skippers shop in atlantic highlands. launching is not really a problem. i decided to switch over to the western sound this year because of the easier commute, and also the chance to catch blackfish without going on the ocean. good luck. if i come up with any thing i'll let you know..ed
Presuming you have an Outboard, find a good marina. It'll cost you close to $100 a foot for an in-water slip. I keep practically all my fishing equipment on the boat for many years and its never been stolen. Tilt your engine out of the water when not in use, pay the marina the $200 or so to bottom paint and you're good to go for the season at maximum convenience.
Of course if you prefer to go through the process of trailering, loading and unloading then you can save gobs of money. But you'll lose the convenience.
Of course if you prefer to go through the process of trailering, loading and unloading then you can save gobs of money. But you'll lose the convenience.
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I'm still a rookie really, have only owned a boat for a few seasons. The only thing that bothers me about trailering is the rat-race to the launch; this occurs if you want to fish at prime time on the weekends. Most serious anglers avoid these times anyway. If you launch a boat early mornings, weekdays, or nights, the crowds are usually not an issue. Try and launch at 10:00 AM on saturday though, and you will be waiting a good hour at least, on both ends.
I figure either way you are driving to the marina - it's just launching and loading the boat that takes time. Launching/loading my 21 footer alone takes me less than 20 minutes combined, including the things you need to do before you hit the road. It actually only takes me a few minutes on each end to get the boat in and out of the water.
I pay $1.50 for my gas and not $2.00+ and don't subject my engine/gear to the **** of perpetual salt h20. The difference between a trailered boat & a moored one is also pretty obvious in short time. My boat won't sink when dry-docked and I can maintainence / clean / load / unload it at the house, at my convienence. There's also the benefit of being able to take it anywhere via land. Not to mention I don't have to pay anything to "store" it.
Obviously, some boats just can't be trailered, and for anyone it is somewhat easier to just hop in and go fishing. A friend of mine is allways pushing this, but he's the type that can barely handle the aggravation of rinsing off reels at the end of the day. When I have a really nice 25ft boat, I'll probably get a mooring and use it for prime-time fishing, a few days at a shot.
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I'm still a rookie really, have only owned a boat for a few seasons. The only thing that bothers me about trailering is the rat-race to the launch; this occurs if you want to fish at prime time on the weekends. Most serious anglers avoid these times anyway. If you launch a boat early mornings, weekdays, or nights, the crowds are usually not an issue. Try and launch at 10:00 AM on saturday though, and you will be waiting a good hour at least, on both ends.
I figure either way you are driving to the marina - it's just launching and loading the boat that takes time. Launching/loading my 21 footer alone takes me less than 20 minutes combined, including the things you need to do before you hit the road. It actually only takes me a few minutes on each end to get the boat in and out of the water.
I pay $1.50 for my gas and not $2.00+ and don't subject my engine/gear to the **** of perpetual salt h20. The difference between a trailered boat & a moored one is also pretty obvious in short time. My boat won't sink when dry-docked and I can maintainence / clean / load / unload it at the house, at my convienence. There's also the benefit of being able to take it anywhere via land. Not to mention I don't have to pay anything to "store" it.
Obviously, some boats just can't be trailered, and for anyone it is somewhat easier to just hop in and go fishing. A friend of mine is allways pushing this, but he's the type that can barely handle the aggravation of rinsing off reels at the end of the day. When I have a really nice 25ft boat, I'll probably get a mooring and use it for prime-time fishing, a few days at a shot.
Jon
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Hey Guys
Thanks for the replies. I have no real preferance for trailering but I would know where to store a boat. Its only 19 ft. so it is managable to trailer but i would like a rack in westchester. I live about an hour from the sound so i would be able to call ahead ans have the boat in the water by the time i get there. on the other hand i live 10 miutes from a ramp on the hudson What to do???
Hey Guys
Thanks for the replies. I have no real preferance for trailering but I would know where to store a boat. Its only 19 ft. so it is managable to trailer but i would like a rack in westchester. I live about an hour from the sound so i would be able to call ahead ans have the boat in the water by the time i get there. on the other hand i live 10 miutes from a ramp on the hudson What to do???
Another thing about trailering-in the spring when it's time to wash, wax and get all the kinks out of the boat and motor-it's right there in your driveway! As I said I dock one boat-I pay to have EVERYTHING done on that boat! But the little boat I set up in my driveway-wash, wax it, run the engine, work on the trailer, check all the electrical stuff and the best of it all is it is right there-I have elec. hoses/water, all my tools!
Good and bad about both methods-take some time and thing it out!
Hipshot
P.S. You can always change your mind after a season, it's not the end of the world!
Good and bad about both methods-take some time and thing it out!
Hipshot
P.S. You can always change your mind after a season, it's not the end of the world!
LkyLindy,
I have no problem having a ****tail on my boat-whether it is before I pull it out of the water or after! I don't have any problem having a gin and tonic or scotch on the rocks while sitting on my boat while it is on the trailer in the parking lot-who cares what people think! As for drinking and driving, I always pull over to the side of the road before I take a swig!
Hip
I have no problem having a ****tail on my boat-whether it is before I pull it out of the water or after! I don't have any problem having a gin and tonic or scotch on the rocks while sitting on my boat while it is on the trailer in the parking lot-who cares what people think! As for drinking and driving, I always pull over to the side of the road before I take a swig!
Hip
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i like just being able to go down and sit at the dock and BBQ drink a few beers and throw a line and catch some snappers or some eels keeping the boat in a marina is a major convience especially if you likke to go out after work like i do you throw the poles in the car and leave right from work if i trailered i would never be able to do that
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I started out trailering my first boat for years, it did get old. Then I joined a club with a mooring field, that was better than the trailering, especially the party's. Even that rowing out to the boat and back wasn't too bad, but a bit of an inconvenience.
Now as long as I can pay for the slip, it's soo convenient, you will never want to go back to trailering.
Now as long as I can pay for the slip, it's soo convenient, you will never want to go back to trailering.
I docked a 19' Renken in Lindenhurst and Amityville from 1978 to 1986 and have been trailering a SeaPro 180DC (of course, I can see the boat ramp from my driveway) from 1999 to now. Had gas siphoned, battery sabotaged, and safety equipment swiped at the marinas, and would NEVER leave fishing equipment or any electronics at the marina or on the private canal in Amityville. Trailering- ONLY gripe is I have to jockey cars a little bit more in the driveway again, and I can't keep a killie trap over the side. (virtually stopped using them, but I can keep them alive in the shade outside my garage with brackish water and an air pump for over a week anyway) No bottom painting, Mr. Mossberg for home security, easy access if I want to repair or measure for modifications, no walking through someone's backyard during their kid's party, and no competition at a marina for hose, electric parking. Plus the gear is in my locked garage, 9 feet from the boat. Boat ramp's got a washdown area as well.
My own waterfront home would be the dream, but only Lotto would make that a reality. Haven't even greased the bearings in a year, but for me, 40 or 50 outings only equals 50 or 60 trailered miles. As usual, to each his own.
My own waterfront home would be the dream, but only Lotto would make that a reality. Haven't even greased the bearings in a year, but for me, 40 or 50 outings only equals 50 or 60 trailered miles. As usual, to each his own.
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There is one more side benifit to trailering, All the laughs you get watching the sunday sailors trying to retrieve their rigs at 4 oclock on a Sunday afternoon. I'm not trying to be mean spirited but some of these acts have to be seen to be believed.
(This post edited by spygull on 02/06/2003)
There is one more side benifit to trailering, All the laughs you get watching the sunday sailors trying to retrieve their rigs at 4 oclock on a Sunday afternoon. I'm not trying to be mean spirited but some of these acts have to be seen to be believed.
(This post edited by spygull on 02/06/2003)
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That's for sure.. someone I know once said it could be a spectator sport. Even launching.. once I was trying to pick someone up at the dock and had to wait for two idiots that had launched an I/O and where stuck in reverse... It sucks though to be behind these *ssholes.. the 20 minute load of a 14 foot aluminum or PWC is by far the most humurous, yet foul act..
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I normally go out early on a weekend day and get back around 1 in order to miss many of the aforementioned. The worst is when the inconsiderate boobs leave the boat and trailer half in or half out while they do something that should have been done before or after they were in the ramp area in the first place. Weekdays? Thats when trailering is completely worthwhile!
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