Livelineing legal porgies in Montauk
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I thought recs can fish through Sept 26 for scup?
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just dont get caught.
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RidgeRunner wrote:
just dont get caught.
SCUP (PORGY) (ALL OTHER ANGLERS)
Length: 10.5 Creel limit: 10 Season: May 25 - September 26
Special Conditions:
This is where I got it.
just dont get caught.
SCUP (PORGY) (ALL OTHER ANGLERS)
Length: 10.5 Creel limit: 10 Season: May 25 - September 26
Special Conditions:
This is where I got it.
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When I was fishing for grouper in FL with Pinfish someone told me to cut the spikes off the dorsal fin of the bait. I'm told it makes them swim like they are injured and enables the predator fish to eat the bait more easily. Anyone else ever hear of this, and does it help?
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6to8ftSeas wrote:
When I was fishing for grouper in FL with Pinfish someone told me to cut the spikes off the dorsal fin of the bait. I'm told it makes them swim like they are injured and enables the predator fish to eat the bait more easily. Anyone else ever hear of this, and does it help?
Some guys trim the dorsal fin some don't. Does it make a difference? I guess the guys that do it think it does.
When I was fishing for grouper in FL with Pinfish someone told me to cut the spikes off the dorsal fin of the bait. I'm told it makes them swim like they are injured and enables the predator fish to eat the bait more easily. Anyone else ever hear of this, and does it help?
Some guys trim the dorsal fin some don't. Does it make a difference? I guess the guys that do it think it does.
Tons of bass have been caught on porgies, and a BIG fish will take a BIG bait. Our largest bass last year were all taken on porgies 12" plus.
Rigging : 3 way swivel - tie a dropper loop with @ a foot of line for your sinker. 8' of leader and a circle hook for the business end.
Hook the Porgy throught the side of the mouth about an inch back, pretty solid there. Don't worry about doctoring him up - we're fishing Montauk for BIG bass. Set the rig to the bottom and give 3 or 4 cranks. Stagger the depth by putting different weights on each rod. Depending on the tide you can go as light as 4 oz and as heavy as 16 oz.
Do multiple drifts over structure. Don't bother with marathon drifts for a mile. The fish are in the structure. Keep buckets with water on deck for the hooked porgies as you run up tide.
This is the most important part - LET THAT FISH EAT - this is a big bait. With the circle hook the fish will hook itself , you don't want to do anything until the rod is doubled over and line is coming off the spool. Then a firm lift is all you need. If you react whenthe fish bites you will be pulling the bait from its mouth.
If bluefish harass - (a bass bite will be smoother - bluefish more chaotic) jig the bait that is left it feels like anything is still there. Often this will entice a bite from bass that were watching the show. No bite - rebait.
Montauk on a Saturday will be crowded. My best advice is get out at first light. You will see boats that are trolling and boats that are using porgies. Stay with the fleet that is using the porgies. Porgy guys get in the way of trollers and vice versa.
Rigging : 3 way swivel - tie a dropper loop with @ a foot of line for your sinker. 8' of leader and a circle hook for the business end.
Hook the Porgy throught the side of the mouth about an inch back, pretty solid there. Don't worry about doctoring him up - we're fishing Montauk for BIG bass. Set the rig to the bottom and give 3 or 4 cranks. Stagger the depth by putting different weights on each rod. Depending on the tide you can go as light as 4 oz and as heavy as 16 oz.
Do multiple drifts over structure. Don't bother with marathon drifts for a mile. The fish are in the structure. Keep buckets with water on deck for the hooked porgies as you run up tide.
This is the most important part - LET THAT FISH EAT - this is a big bait. With the circle hook the fish will hook itself , you don't want to do anything until the rod is doubled over and line is coming off the spool. Then a firm lift is all you need. If you react whenthe fish bites you will be pulling the bait from its mouth.
If bluefish harass - (a bass bite will be smoother - bluefish more chaotic) jig the bait that is left it feels like anything is still there. Often this will entice a bite from bass that were watching the show. No bite - rebait.
Montauk on a Saturday will be crowded. My best advice is get out at first light. You will see boats that are trolling and boats that are using porgies. Stay with the fleet that is using the porgies. Porgy guys get in the way of trollers and vice versa.
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6to8ftSeas wrote:
When I was fishing for grouper in FL with Pinfish someone told me to cut the spikes off the dorsal fin of the bait. I'm told it makes them swim like they are injured and enables the predator fish to eat the bait more easily. Anyone else ever hear of this, and does it help?
Some do trim the pins but it's not a good idea especially if using short (18") leader for grouper. We just had a huge snook take a 4-5 inch pin while fishing a small wreck which was presented with the spikes. Natural looking.
On the other hand using snappers for fluke you can trim the tail to slow them down.
When I was fishing for grouper in FL with Pinfish someone told me to cut the spikes off the dorsal fin of the bait. I'm told it makes them swim like they are injured and enables the predator fish to eat the bait more easily. Anyone else ever hear of this, and does it help?
Some do trim the pins but it's not a good idea especially if using short (18") leader for grouper. We just had a huge snook take a 4-5 inch pin while fishing a small wreck which was presented with the spikes. Natural looking.
On the other hand using snappers for fluke you can trim the tail to slow them down.
I have done quite a few trips on Capt. Mark and Windy out in montauk. They hook the porgies with circle hooks from under the mouth and thru the nostrils, never any problem hooking up that way. One trick, I use scissors and cut the dorsal off so they don't spike the bass, seems to help. There is no reason to use illegal porgies either, bass swallow fluke, they have no problem with a legal porgie
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