thanks for the advice. I think i want something below 30lb, because im mostly gonna be trying this on half day trips, where the biggest fish are usually no more than 10 or 15 pounds. For this, i think 30lb PP is still overkill. Maybe I should go with 20lb? I see what you mean about 12 not doing much, it probably will barely move the jig because you have to jig so slowly as to not break the line.