[614078]

Theres been a few times now I've noticed kayakers fishing real close to shore. So close to the shore that I could easily cast my flyrod and hook a big whale of a yakker. Even though I to have a kayak I would always leave plenty of room for any surfcasters on the shoreline. Earlier this spring while my buddy and I were fishing LNB we were always aware of where the surfcasters were and how far off the shore we were. We always made sure we kept out of the surfcasters range. But it seems theres more than a few kayakers out here on Long Island that don't care how close they drift or paddle in front of surfcasters. Your looking for trouble if you continue to use your kayak in this manner. I have seen surfcasters get so pissed off that they would actually put on a 4-6oz sinker and bombs away at whoever entered there casting range. So please be aware of who is on the shore. Give the surfcasters plenty of room to fish. If your in your kayak don't enter and try to fish in a surfcasters or a flyrodders zone your just looking for trouble if you do. Thats just not the right thing to do. Just try to remember this. Theres plenty of places we can fish in a kayak but theres not many places for a surfcaster to go. You know who you are so please beware. The next time you enter a surfcasters or a flyrodders zone might not be a pleasent experience for you. Have a little respect for the shorebound and leave some distance between yourself and them.

 

[616271]

I agree completely. Shore guys are very limited in some places and we kayak fisherman aren't. So show courtesy and give them their spots. Same with boats.

 

[621177]

One thing to remember is the fact that at one point or another we too were surfcasters and we were angered by boaters coming into our fishing area. I still enjoy going out surfcasting with my son and my friend Dino from time to time and always am greatful to those boaters that show respect by staying away from our lines.

 

[Polodog]

well said FLYRODDER. the other day my nephew got so mad at this kayaker who would not budge from his casting zone, they he lobbed a 6 0z sinker right next to him. well he got the message and for a min. we thought he had a hidden outboard some where. boy.. did he take off in a hurry

 

[621603]

This has happened to me more than once. Yakking well out of the range of the surf boys I hook an offshore fish. While fighting it I get blown/washed into the surfcasters zone. I have then typically put the rod with the fish still online into the rod holder and paddled out to lexs competitive waters to resume the fight. But what if I had a really big striper I didn't want to risk losing...?? Should I continue to drift or paddle out?

 

[616271]

If you have a large fish on and you have your hands full the fish is dictating the action. If the fish brings you within range of shore caster, its my opinion, you stay with the fish. These guys are fisherman and should understand. If they don't then they're morons. Obviously there are more than enough morons to go around but I'd stay with the fish.

 

[614078]

I agree with Jon. If you have a fish on and the fish takes you into surfcaster range most surfcasters will see your fighting a fish and will understand your not coming in there area on purpose. Only a moron would get pissed off at that. But I don't think you'll have a hooked fish that'll take you towards the surf. Most big fish when hooked will run for deep moving water.

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[621603]

Fly - Like I said, this has happened to me a few times, particularly during the fall blue blitz's along the beach. Even if it's a big one and heads for blue water, it can't overcome the combined (typically) power of wind and wave that push me towards the beach and our surfcasting brethern.

 

[614078]

YAKFISH if you have an onshore wind and your fishing that close to the breaking waves then you truly are looking for trouble. Not only from the surfcasters but from putting yourself in harms way. Like getting wiped out by a wave while fighting a fish.
But if your fishing far off the shore and your being blown in that fast by the wind I think you should start looking to buy a drift chute. This will stop you from being blown in so fast. JonSS sells a good drift chute at a good price on his site web-site
WWW.kayakfishingstuff.com

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[joey2509]

hey Fly when the **** I am going to get you over here for some fishing things are going wild over here,, BTW I joined the salty flyrodders and I am really casting better, hope we can hook up and fish soon.

 

[614078]

Hey Joey what the **** is going on? I quit the Salty Flyrodders and you join them!!! Joey I know your catching some good stripers on your side of the sound. I also see you had a great time up north. But you know me I will not use bait for catching stripers unless I get really really desperate. I'm not there (desperate)yet.I want to catch them on the fly rod. Also I know an area on my side of the sound that I know you would really like to fish from the kayak. Do you have a GPS? If so we have to fish this area at low tide so you can mark where the boulders are located cause at 2 hours before high tide they get covered up. Lots of bait there. I'm sure if you fished bait there at night you would get multiple hits. I might try to get out there on the 4th. I will mark the boulders using my GPS and can pass the #'s to you. I will try to get to your Kayak Demo Day at LNB I'll bring my Drifter with me.

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[621603]

Fly - out on the ocean I don't seem to have a big problem with too quickly drifting out of casting range. The blues will stay pretty concentrated and the albies, well, you only get one shot at them anyway. So, not sure that the sock will do me much good. Inshore, I do stay in the surf zone because that's where the fish are. I find that if I keep an eye on the incoming breakers I can usually judge when I'm in harms way and turn into them and hop over the top. Only been caught sideways once and managed to brace against the curl and ride it in. I troll with the drag very loose, so when I get a strike I quickly set the hook and, as fast as I can, paddle out far enough past the surf to allow myself some time to reel 'im in. He's usually still on. I have a VS250 on a 7' rod so I can really crank them in once I 'm ready. It seems to work. Yes, it's hairy but I think I'm learning how to fish the surf zone if not with complete safety then at least with better odds.

 

[joey2509]

Hey FLY...I tell you the GPS worked for me this past weekend, I have marked this reefs on low and got right on top of them with water on them with the GPS. Where did you get the idea I use bait, I am a plugger first and formost, but somehow I am turning into a flyrodder. What weight rod do you like the sound?

 

[614078]

Joey I know you're a plugger first. Didn't mean to make it sound like you only use bait but before you went fishing up north you did post a report of catching stripers on sandworms. Have you caught a keeper size striper yet on the fly rod? If not wait till you do. You'll want to get rid of all your surfcasting stuff(only joking)and only use the fly rod.
The GPS is great. It really comes handy when marking reefs and dropoffs. Its nice to be able to pinpoint locations and come back either in darkness or when the water is covering the boulders. I'm surprised not many kayakers want to use a GPS.
As for what wt fly rod I use. I use my 10wt rod but you could use a 9wt. I can beach or boat the striper a lot faster with a 10 or 9wt. Plus you'll be able to toss a 12inch bunker fly with the 9/10wt. It would be hard to do that with an 8wt. Also its easier to fight 1 of those big bruiser 15+lb bluefish with the 9/10wt.

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[joey2509]

I am using a 9 wt. but I think I am also going to get a 10, just seems to make tossing some big flies alot easier. And No I have not got a keeper on the fly yet, but soon I hope buddy.

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