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Hey Guys,

I just want to know if a Newell 332, and a LAMIGLAS rod rated for 30-80lb test, in 7ft lenght would be sufficient for Jigging for Tuna??? I got 40lb test diamond Hi catch line on the reel. Please let me know what you guys think.
 

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The rod is good enough for jigging tuna, but as Crag posted you need a heavier reel to match 60 - 80 # line.
I have three jigging reels
-Shimano TLD25 (60 # line)
-Newell 600 series (80 # line)
-Shimano Trinidad 50 (80 # spectra line)
I don't want to use less than 60 # line, because you never know what you catch on jig. Last year we had many big yellowfins over 100 lbs and bluefins upto 250 lbs in Hudson Canyon. I saw many times small reels were broken down when they hooked up with a big tuna.

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JIGGING & BAIT GEAR FOR PARTY BOAT FISHING>

Weaser...that Penn GTI310 was never ment for party boat tuna fishing... Tuna jigging requires reels with excellent freespool for casting and smooth and powerful drags for fighting fish. KILSONG gave you a great set of jigging outfits you can start with on these jigging trips. You have to remember that when you are jigging or baiting tuna on a party boat, tangles abound, especially when a few fish are hooked up at the same time. That requires backups for your main setups...it also requires you bringing extra topshots in both flurocarbon and standard monofilament, which are changed when:
1)Chaffing due to rubbing on the hull of the boat...
2)Cutoffs which are more frequent then you think...
3)Switch from heavier to lighter or vice versea on your topshots due to the both the size of the fish, or by the way the fish are biting.

Get yourself, fluro in size from 50, 60 and 80 for when you are baitfishing...Seaguar is one of the best and the most commonly used. You can also buy premade topshots and wind-on leaders of different sizes and specificed lengths. Topshots by Basil are excellent...his website <ifish42na.com> which is BHP tackle, gives you a description on what wind on
leaders and top shots are, and what you might need for your fishing trip. You can also bring a assortment of swivels from 150 and upto 300...Spros are the best due to their construction, and size for rated strength...Rosco, Sampo and Coastlock are also good, so you have a choice depending on what you want to spend. For line, have a number of setups with power pro gelspun line starting from 65lb test which you use as your backing on your reels...80lb test is the standard and you can have a outfit with 100. For monofilament setups, the best is Jinkai, with Momoi another excellent choice...these are ultra thin copolymer monofilaments which have great strength when compared to their line diameters...smoked blue is the preferred color. If you are baiting, their are a number or choices for hooks, from Owners Super Mutu circle hooks, Gamakatsus heavy duty live bait hooks, Mustads Hoodlums, and Eagle Claws Live bait 116 and 118 series, and their 2004G circle hook series. If you grab a assortment of Mustad and Eagle Claw hooks in sizes from 3/0 to 10/0, you should have your bases covered. You can bring a package or two or live bait hooks in smaller sizes. Get a few squid jigs for making bait if warranted. Grab a few egg sinkers in size 1,2,4,6 and 8 and a few rubber bands and you are all set with your baiting outfits. For jigs, there are many choices, from yo-zuri and megabait, but for a great all around jig, get the hammered DB diamond jigs in sizes from 6,8,10 and if you want a 12, with the 8oz being the best all around size. You can switch off the bluefish hooks #3407 which usually come on these jigs to one of a number different sized tuna hooks. Vike jigs in 6,9 and 12oz size also work well.

For jigging reels, on most trips you can getaway with a Trinidad 30. If you start seeing larger fish of over 100lbs a Trinidad 40 will withstand the abuse much better. These reels can cast jigs as well as any other reels on the market. Again if you are seeing smaller fish in the 40-80lb class you can use reels like the Accurate Boss Magnum 665, or Penn red 4/0s with a YTS kit on it. A Pro Gear 454, Wahoo Special, or Albacore special reels are great other choices. One or two heavy duty spinning outfits would also be a good idea, especially when you have to cast out to breaking fish.... A Shimano Thunnus reel, would give you a idea on what type of spinner you would use. If you are baitfishing get at a minimum one two speed reel such as the standard TLD 30 filled with 60lb test. A Penn formula 10kg is a good choice for the price. Usually you would bring along at least one 30 wide sized and one 50 sized outfit depending on the size of the fish....for star drag reels you cannot go wrong with a Diawa Sealine 400,450,600 and 900H or a Penn Senator 6/0 regular or wide with either a tiburon or accurate kit on it. One great all around reel is a Penn 6/0 with a narrow aluminun kit which can be fished with 80lb spectra backing and can be used for both baiting or jigging.

For rods, their are a number of off the rack rods you can get. Now if we are looking for a lightweight jigging rod in the 7 foot class, the Loomis Pelagic series is a decent choice, that is very popular. A much better rod would be the Calstar 700H and the 700XH if you like rods that with extra fast tapers that shut off quickly when loaded. Seekers 670H and 670XH are rods with slightly more progressive action. If you are looking for to build a jigging stick, contact Capt. Neil on this board or Al the Rod professor for their recommended choices.

Finally it also good to have at least a rod belt for your comfort in fighting fish...if you do not like holding your rod under your arm while fighting a big fish, get a belt...a harness is optional here. Braid belts are very popular and reasonably priced.

Well good luck and catch em up....
EC NEWELL MAN>>>>>
 

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Best Spot on the PartyBoat for Tuna fishing???

Hey Guys,

I was just wondering, is there a spot on a partyboat that you recommend over other spots??? I been hearing the stern is really good...is that true?? or it doesn't really matter??? Thanks
 

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As EC Newell mentioned before, topshot and wind-on leader are going to gain popularity in East Coast too. I had an opportunity to visit Basil's home (he lives in New Jersey) and watch him make wind-on leader. It is pretty easy to make if you have proper tools.

As TonyTuna said the best spot on the party boat depends on which way line go out. But for jigging, stern side is not the spot( usually stern side is crowded). If you decide to jig, reel in your baited rig (every rod on the party boat has to be attended) go to the least crowded area of the boat (usually bow or the side opposite the side where the lines are going out).

Actually there is no your spot on the tuna party boat. When you fight fish, you have to follow the fish to avoid tangle(no angle, no tangle). Anybody can take your spot to fish. If everbody stays on his spot, you lose more fish than catch fish because of tangle.

As EC Neweel mentioned, the hammered DB diamond jig is the most popular jig among jiggers. But, like codfishing, I recommend to bring different type of jig like Braid's slammer jig, Luhr Jenson's stinger or crippled herring. A few years ago i had 8 tuna on stinger jig while others caught one or two on the hammered diamong jig. But next trip the diamond jig worked better.

The other item i'd like to recommend for jigging is Gamakatsu's stinger hook called Assist 510 Jigging Lure Stinger Hook. Fish sometimes strikes the head of a jig. The stinger hook is designed to hook any fish that strikes the head of jig. In Japan they have used this stinger hook for a long time and it was introduced in West Coast last year and had a good response. I'll go to the canyon next week and let you know how this product works.

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I got the stinger hooks from a tackle shop in California. But right now two tackle shops carry the stinger hooks in our area.

- Seoul tackle shop in Woodside, N.Y.
(718 - 565-2376)
- MM tackle shop in Jersey City, N.J

There are 2/0, 3/0 and 4/0 size hooks.
I recommend to order 4/0 size.
 

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Jigging For Tuna

No one has emntioned what a thrill it is getting a tuna by jigging--its like hooking the bottom that then takes off. I use the Avet 4/0 two speed for jigging tuna. It has the drag, line capacity(I use Momi #60 diamond) and weighs in at a manageble weight. My rod was made at J&B in Niantic on a calstar blank but the most important part of the rod is a roller tip. J&B used a west coast wire tip which has a big loop for better casting--looks weird but it works. Good luck with the tuna jigging.
 
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