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It's probably been said before, but you take some very nice pictures. I look forward to seeing them, even when stuck at my desk. Hope you post from time to time thru the winter.

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If you want Jack can put you on his perfered e mail reports list for a small fee. You get up to the minut reports and lots of pictures. He sends pictures all winter on what it was like during the season. He calls them remember when. They warm me up on a cold day.
 

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Thats Great,
This guy figured out how to get paid for behaving like most guys in montauk, driving around looking for fish, what a country

Yep.A 65 yr. old retiree with a bad pension gets asked to do something by the non-locals,and gets berated for it.
What a country.

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Jack spends 3 hrs plus a night working on his reports. He invested in a new camera sence he started his reports and does a lot more driving around to cover all the bases for his report. He has overhead. If you enjoy his reports, pay him. Matty, do you think this guy is getting rich off this? Even if he is, the choice is yours.
 

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Great

Well, I love to fish, boat, and related things, and I think its great that the man gets paid to do something related to what I love, the "what a great country" remark is pretty common, you know like " only in america", I wouldnt have posted it if I knew that people would feel the need to give the guys finances out.
But I do agree that the man takes a great picture. That is my favorite area to fish during June, July, and August... Less people.

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Jack!

Hey everyone's entitle to their opinions here. That's what makes this a great country. Last time I checked, this wasn't some Islamic country like Afghanistan were they cut your tougue out or perhaps stone you to death for voicing your opinions!

1) Now for this Jack Yee:

wacky writes "...he (Jack) has overheads" ? Fine I agree but remember Jack would be still be doing whatever he was doing today if it wasn't for his picture taking. He would still be running around like a maniac all over. So he ain't doing anything new. He saw what Paul Melynek was doing and pounced on the opportunity to make some $$$.

2)The word in Montauk is that the locals are annoyed with Jack Yee but can't do much about it. Jack's bringing in the crowds and that's for sure. I had never seen Montauk like the way I saw it this season. PACKED! PACKED! PACKED! No room to cast, tangles and a bunch of idiots roaming the beaches looking to cast right over you was the highlight of the day. [Offcourse! I met some nice people as well]This is one of the reason I went home early this season right back to MA. Couldn't take it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm entitled to fish there alone but I won't fish crowds period! Not the kinds that were generated at Montauk. Ever try parking at Jones' this season? FORGET IT! Not one spot was available. I went right back to the Motel to take a nap.

b) Another issue that comes to mind when I see all these crowds is that the conservation societies/environemental phreaks have already started laying out their plans to stop beach access to the State park at the point. Rumors of picture taking - Vehicular dune damage and visual pollution are their main aims to defeat vehical access. AND LET ME TELL YOU JACK YEE AIN'T HELPING THE MATTER. If the beaches at Montauk ever gets closed ever(specially at the point), thank Jack Yee! Because it would have never closed if it wasn't for the crowds that are coming now and the future. I hope Jack Yee supporters remember what I said here.

3) NorEast & Jack - Perfect combo! But no one is paying Jack any $$$ for the upcoming year as the reports are posted on the NorEast. A DAY LATE? I don't care! Sorry. ANyone that pays Jack should also pay me a few bucks as well, I need it.

a) NorEast and Jack are bad for Montauk fishing again because of the crowds it brings in.

b) It's offcourse good the the Montauk Tourism. It bring in the $$$ and I'm sure the chamber of commerce (as well as Vinny and Johnny's) are happy with Jack services.

4) Everyones got to make money sure and more power to Jack but at what and whos expense? Yours and mine!

So I have given you my opinion and being that it is a free country, Jack can do whatever his heart desires.

Was I nuetral on this issue or what?

JB/MA
 

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If the locals are so upset why do you see them posing for the photos? I can name 10 in the last week. I fish Montauk alot and sure this year was the most crowded yet but if you know what you are doing you can deal with it. Montauk has enough fish that you can find away to enjoy yourself.
As far as beach access Jack has worked as hard as anybody in keeping it. He was one of the founders of MSA.
 

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Wackey:

If you know the internal issues in Montauk, then you would know why locals are nice to Jack. They have no choice. I hope you know what I mean. Without elaborating into the matter more because of foreseable reasons, I would hesitate to comment further on it then I already have.

Don't know what I'm doing? Comon Wackey! Perhaps I lack the interest in fishing side by side shoulder to shoulder with ass***** with no courtesy.

WHOA! Killer! Take it easy!
DONT! make comments when you don't know the background of fishing accesses and prohitions in Montauk. Now you're going too far. Making insane comments like "Jack has worked hard" an "he was the original MSA founder" are Ludicrous!!!!!!!!!.

Just to set the record straight on your extremely poor judgement on Jack. here's a few historical notes:

1) The whole Turtle Cove issue from day one when the gate was taken down to the present day of closure was ALL DUE TO JACK YEE! The current closure of Turtle Cove was in reality because of Jack Yee's constant barrage of conspiring tactics to keep it "HANDICAP ONLY". Bet you didn't know that did you? This stated a snow ball effect to our present state of the closure.

2) Jack was NOT a founder of the MSA even though he states it freely along the beach to anyone who he talks to. The truth is that Jack wanted to be the leader of the pack in MSA and did everything that went against the founding principals of the MSA. For the record he was only a member who created unnecessary waves. If people disagreed with him, he would have a anger fit and threaten, shout etc. etc (Jack style). The MSA could have never accomplished anything if Jack was leading it. He was thrown out of the MSA for the record because of his letter writing skills claiming to be the leader of the assoiation maligning the association.

There are other horific stories of what Jack wanted to do using the MSA which I will remain silent on as well.

Ask Jack about LIBBA and he'll tell you the same thing, "I STARTED LIBBA". Assanine!

For MSA founders, thank people like Eddie Ferry, George Larson, Tony D. Without these folks and their proper judgment in directing the organization MSA would have never made it.

[The above statements have been verified from a very good source]

Listen, I'm good at beach access politics because I'm one person who knows about vehical accesses and closures from Virgnia all the way up the coast line. In my spare time this is all I do. Montauk is just place I pay special attention to because I love the place.

So next time don't post ridiculously wackey and fabricated lies whos source is spewed by non other than Jack Yee. Stop being gullibe Wackey! Wake up and smell the coffee. Life isn't black and white, there are shades of gray in it. And if you look really hard you will see
some colors!

Again nothing personel, I'm sure you are a gentlemen but you seem to be a by product of some extremely sly misinformation. .
 

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Life isn't black and white, there are shades of gray in it. And if you look really hard you will see
some colors!

Seems to me you don't see it that way John.You're making it sound as though Jack's the enemy and that it's the final word.
 

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enemy?

Jack is not an enemy. s far I know him, he's a fairly good person. His practices are enimical to the welfare of fishermen at times and besides truth is truth. There are no half truths or partial truths. I call a spade a spade. What's wrong with that?
 

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I?ve heard this argument before and I simply will never agree that Jack Yee and Noreast.com are the cause of over crowding in Montauk. It would be nice if our site had that kind of influence, but it doesn?t.

Montauk was crowded this year because that?s where the fish were and people didn?t need Noreast.com or Jack Yee to tell them about it. There?s no shortage of information on sportfishing in this region. Between magazines, clubs, email, radio, local newspapers, and then you throw in the fact that just about everyone has a cell phone today, the news of a hot Montauk bite gets around fast.

A few years ago the locals in Montauk protested a web cam we had operating in the Montauk Lighthouse. It provided an updated shot of Turtle Cove that was simply breathtaking. But the plug was pulled soon after due to pressure from locals that claimed the cam was causing overcrowding of surfers. From what I?ve been told the overcrowding problem is worse than ever today, so I guess the cam wasn?t the problem.

The way I see it is most of the people that read our online reports are exactly where I am when I?m reading them ? stuck behind a desk in my office working on a computer. No matter how much they want to they simply can?t get up from behind their desk and run out to Montauk because of Jacks report. But they can imagine what?s happening and view it like never before, being as close to it as possible without actually being there. And that is what Noreast.com is all about.
 

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Well said George.

In my book also jack has nothing to do with overcrowding the mecca,there are more & more surfcasters year after year,everyone is taking up the sport,& they here montauk is the place to be to catch bass,& they make a weekend of it,nonetheless of all the campers & there families that thrive year after year to go back weekend after weekend.it has nothing to do with jacks reports,it was allways crowded out there.
If you want to read about small bass blitzing,all over montauk,& drive outthere,sit in your buggy,wait for the schools to come in,for some 12lb fish go right ahead,But me I go deep on the south & stay away from the maniacs,I believe jack is doing an excellent job,with all the heat & reports,keep it up Jack.All the guy's that hate what jack is doing,your gonna ruin it for everyone else,& why do that,his pictures are worth a million bucks alone.
 

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Montauk crowds

"Montauk was crowded this year because that?s where the fish were and people didn?t need Noreast.com or Jack Yee to tell them about it."

I agree. I spent the better part of Sept. in E. Long Island. I usually fish the Hapmtons beaches, but there were just no fish there, so I went to Montauk. 1st yr. w/ a wet suit. Two nights come to mind- 1st I arrived around 10:30 pm- guys resting from great daylight blitz. I went under bluffs on "wrong" tide and got fish every cast. 2 other guys there. Another night fished N. side not a sole in sight, buddy got a 25# and I got a 10#. I'm new to fishing it, but found the crowds to be manageable. Weed bowl and turtle cove will always be mayhem for daylight blitzes. Plenty of fish for all IMO.
 
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