[flattie]

Jaiem wrote:
Lattitudechange wrote:
Working here legally and sending monies home is one thing, but what bugs me is when these workers get laid off for the off-season, then move back home to their country and collect unemployment from this country. That, to me seems like an abuse of the system. I wonder where the state mails their UI checks to?

I don't get it either. Doesn't it ring odd to someone that a UI, SS, SSI etc. check is being mailed to a totally different address than the person claiming it? Not to mention out of the country?!?! At the very least mailing to Mexico requires more postage than just a 1st class stamp.

I propose the U.S. Treasury merge with the UN international registry and just send checks to everyone.



Okay. Illegal is illegal and they should be treated like the criminals that they are - in other words apprehended, jailed, and deported. The above issue is a little different - If the workers are here legally and consequently they and their employer pays into Unemployment and SS there's not much of an issue - at least for me - with them receiving Unemployment in the offseason even if they live overseas in the offseason. How is it different from the US retiree collecting SS living overseas?? Or the retired NYS worker collecting his/her pension benefit while living overseas??

 

[flattie]

Jaiem wrote:
flattie wrote:
The above issue is a little different - If the workers are here legally and consequently they and their employer pays into Unemployment and SS there's not much of an issue - at least for me - with them receiving Unemployment in the offseason even if they live overseas in the offseason.

I was unaware that Visa employees are entitled to UI, SS etc. What a great country!

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How is it different from the US retiree collecting SS living overseas?? Or the retired NYS worker collecting his/her pension benefit while living overseas??

Putting aside SS for a moment, pension/401k etc is a private fund. UI, SS, SSI etc is public assistance. (don't flame me about SS!)




Jaiem,
Note that I specifically said a "retired NYS worker" which as a government employee has a pension that is funded by NYS residents tax dollars. So when the retired NYS govt worker goes to live in Belize, or Costa Rica or wherever and has their benefits sent there, NYS and its tax paying citizens receive none of the benefit in the form of expenditures in the local economy.

As far as SS, at 38 yrs of age I'd gladly forsake any future benefits and any monies I've paid in at this point in exchange for not having to contribute any money going forward. Talk about a flawed system - too bad the Dem's demonized Bush when he tried to reform SS. I have little hope of receiving much if anything at all from SS 25 yrs from now...