Thanks to you two
First of all, Big thanks to TM and ECNM for taking the time and effort to further our knowledge of the super-tuning of these excellent reels.
I held back my comments on that other thread regarding Newell (Difficult to tune - no quality, ect) vrs other available reels. Since I own at least 7 (Or is it 8 now?) of all the various letter and no-letter series, I can say that without a doubt once you fish one of these in our inshore fisheries - fine-tuned if you wish, no other reel can measure up. I know of no alternative that combines the light weight, ease of disassembly, corrosion resistance and cranking power that these reels have. Even the current S-series are normally fine right out of the box. Much of the chatter about quality issues originates on the West Coast, where these little Squidder and Jigmaster-sized reels have been routinely used to beat the heck out of good-sized albacore, YFT and BFT for better than 20 years. In that super-demanding application every ounce of performance is positively required and frankly I believe there are better, newer choices in reels that can be better suited - the Shimano Trinidads, Progears, Accurates and the newest Avets all are very recent designs and I would think, stronger choices in that fishery. All of them are double or treble the cost of the Newells however, which is another reason that the mate's reel-of-choice out there remains the Newell.
In our EC less demanding INSHORE fisheries, there is just no fish that can stress these reels like that WC offshore stuff can. Come on, no bass, I don't care if its a 60+ is gonna put the strain on a little 229 that a 45lb YFT can. Just not gonna happen. As far as our inshore bottom fishing goes - there is no other reel that I'd rather hold all day than an all-graphite 220 or 229 Newell. Just the most comfortable, powerful and ergonomically correct reel available.
The tuning thing is not really a necessity, they normally fish fine right out of the box. But for the little "Extra edge" that many look for, both hard fishermen and tinkerers, the above tips will certainly increase the overall utility of the reels.
Here's another tip that I have found useful upon occasion - and this pertains only to the earlier reels that had the SS bearing carrier in the right-side plate.
Many times on free-spooling or casting there would be a very slight "Tinking" noise coming from deep inside the reel and this is often mistaken for a spool-to-sideplate rub.
Not the case. Unless the reel was dropped and the frame bent slightly, Newells do not normally suffer from that frame-to-spool malady.
What that tinking actually is is a slight rub of the spool's pinion engagement blocks on the retracted pinion gears trailing edge. Its not a bad thing, just a bit annoying.
I initially tried to adjust this out by manipulating the dog mechanism, bending the tangs fwd and back, attempting to physically push (Pull, actually) the pinion gear further into the sideplate and away from the spool.
Not real successful. The solution was to unscrew that Rt-side bearing carrier and remove the little red washer (Part number U-2) and gently sand it on fine emory cloth to about half its original thickness. On reassembly the bearing carrier will now sit a few thousanths deeper into the side plate and will therefore push the spool just a wee bit further away from the pinion, thus eliminating that source of inteference.
I think WAY back when, like 15 years ago I can recall Newell offered those little washers in a few different thicknesses, they even might have been different colors, I really can't recall. The purpose of those different washers was to accomplish just what I suggested above - moving the spool in and out, relative to the retacted pinion gear.
This tip probably will not apply to about 99% of the reels out there, but if yours "Tinks" on freespool, this is the cure.
Oh, and by the way - Based on a tip the ECNM gave here in an earlier thread, I got 3 of those custom Delrin handle knobs from Jerry "Reelman" for my tog reels - various 220's of different vintages and they are GREAT - well worth the few bucks that Jerry charges. I highly recommend them as an upgrade.
ECNM/TM - as to tip #1 - do you recommend that the SS clicker upgrade be done on reels that have the graphite spool? It was my understanding that the very hard SS clicker tang would destroy the little plastic clicker cogged wheel on the spool-end in short order. If this is not the case, let us know, that's just another opportunity to talk with the very friendly Norma out there in Glendale and to spend more lira on my favorite hobby.
Last time I spoke with her, Carl was standing next to her desk and she put him on the phone and we shot the bull for about 20 minutes. What a friendly, nice guy he is. Definitely made my day. Don't get to talk with a successful reel-inventing icon every day, that's for sure.
BTW - he says the "New" P-series will be out in about 3 months. They have all the old aluminum die-casting gear out of storage and they're working away on getting these new "Old" reels to market.
How many are YOU buying?