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This applies not just to striped bass and sea bass, but to most fish caught in depths over 30 feet. It's the best way to prevent "floaters".

Catching bass from deep water is probably the most common situation where you will injure fish, and the serious damage that may result presents a problem when practicing catch and release. Fisheries biologists liken this swim bladder problem in fish to the “bends” problem humans experience when they return too rapidly to the surface from a deep-water dive. Consequently, it's important to understand why and how injuries occur and what you can do to minimize the number of fish that die as a result of landing bass from the depths.

When you catch bass in deep water, the depth change is too rapid for fish to compensate and the compressed air in their bladder expands - they float! This condition is worse in summer when fish also experience an increase in water temperature at the surface.

When you have hauled in a bass from deep down. His eyes are bulging and his stomach is sticking out of his mouth. Don't try to force the stomach or other organs back into the body cavity.

How can you get him back in the water to safely swim away?

You can’t unless you vent his swim bladder gases.

The swim bladder is an organ filled with gases, mostly oxygen and nitrogen. This organ is in the abdominal cavity along the backbone beneath the first dorsal fin. Except for sharks and rays most marine fishes have well-developed swim bladders. The swim bladder helps keep the fish buoyant at whatever depth they normally live.

When fish are at rest, the pressure of the gases in the swim bladder equals the pressure exerted by the surrounding water. The gases are compressed and the swim bladder occupies a relatively small space. If you bring a fish rapidly to the surface from down below 30’, the outside pressure lessens and the gases in the swim bladder expand in direct proportion.

Say you catch a fish at a depth of 33 feet. By the time you get him to the surface the gases in his swim bladder will occupy twice their original volume. His eyes are bulging and his stomach is sticking out of his mouth. These bladders can only stretch so far before they burst. When they do, the gases escape into the fishes abdomen, where they continue to expand. This puts pressure on the stomach, the intestines and other internal organs.

To return the fish safely, you must vent those gases. And you must do it without further injury to the fish. DO NOT vent the gases by puncturing the protruding stomach or going through the anus. The fish will probably swim away but WON'T LIVE.

Most fish are hardy and can survive this trauma, if properly deflated, they will survive, get bigger and reproduce. Here is how you do it:

-Use a deflating tool (a hypodermic needle, an atheletic ball inflation needle ground to a sharp point or a carpet needle).

-To determine the safe insertion point, Draw an imaginary line from the anal opening to the space between the spiny and soft ray portions of the dorsal fin. Locate the middle of that line, and with a swift smooth motion, insert the deflating tool under a scale through the flesh at a 45-degree angle toward the head of the fish. Proper depth of the insertion depends on the size of the fish.

-Squeeze the fish gently to force the gases out through the tube or needle.

-Do this quickly and very soon after capture.

-Release the fish holding him in the water until he can swim away.

-If the bass and the deflating tool are held slightly below the water's surface during the procedure, bubbles will escape when the swim bladder is pierced. After the bubbling has stopped, the fish should be ready for release with a much better chance of survival.

-The main problem you will come across when deflating a bladder is a clogged needle. If you do not hear any air on your first try, or bass still doesn't swim normally when you finish, blow out the obstruction and repeat the process.

Catch & release is more popular today than ever before. But what good is it if the mortality rates are poor on the fish we release? Deflating the air bladders is a great step that is most often overlooked.
 

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Doc,

This is why one of the biggest rules of diving is "Don't hold your breath".

If the fish is still fresh (able to swim), but bent, might he just head straight for the bottom, where he will be equalized? What if the hole you make in the swim bladder causes the bladder to leak air from too large of a puncture? Air may leak due to the pressure from depth. Now when the fish swims to the bottom, he won't be able to maintain bouyancy, and will crash into the bottom.

Should deflation be used only for obviously belly-up fish? I'd hate to puncture the body off a bass with boggle eyes a spit stomach, only to damage him further. (I'm no surgeon here). I guess what I'm wondering is at what point is surgery neccessary?

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deflating the bladder

im no doctor, but you wont beat the straw that comes with the capri sun
squeezy drink, we used em on porgys ,
c-bass and tog and you wont believe how
well it works, next time you wanna release a c-bass thats a floater try it and think of me...
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I agree with oceanMW. There is a reason for the a fish's bladder and if you start screwing with it you'll defeat it's whole purpose and function of the bladder and the fish will die anyways. What good is their swim bladder if it doesn't hold air? You'll avoid the problem if you don't crank the fish to the boat and play it a little.
 

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This isn't some technique that I just invented. As a matter of fact, on the Bassmasters freshwater circuit, it's common practice to deflate all bass that are caught from waters over 30 feet deep.

I agree that it seems like it could cause even further damage to the fish and I only use it in situations where it is obvious that I have a floater on my hands.
 

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DOCTORFISH's recommendation sounds good if you catch a short fish......but, IMHO, if you use this technique for releasing keeper fish, or large cows, that it is taking catch & release A LITTLE TOO FAR. If you have to resort to this technique for going out and having fun fighting majestic fish, only to release them in the hope that they'll live, then why not just leave them alone?????
 

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I emailed DOCTORFISH privately and asked him for specific directions on how to do this because in the last few trips I have had more than one floater. He thought it would be a good topic here and I agree.
You are damned if you do and damned if you don't it seems. Take your time and don't horse the fish? Well, at least for me, in the warm waters and lower levels of O2 in the Sound, it is difficult at times to release a fish. Hurry the fight to prevent exhuastion? Now you have a problem with a build up of gasses... I beleive the fish has a much better chance of survival by alleviating the gas issue. As was stated in a post above, it has been done for years on the BASS trail with good results. I'm going to give it a try.
Thanks for the tip on the straws...With an 8 yr old in the house, we have plenty of those.
 

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self deflate??

We have been doing a lot of wreck fishing lately from 50' to 90'. We consistently go slow on the retreive, and have had almost no floters in 60' or less. The deeper water definately has and affect, We go slow and wait, slow and wait, and keep repeating this. We just keep the line tight and have lost very few fish to dehooking.
We had an unbelieveable day today in 50' with a new wreck fishing guy and didn't have any floaters. I really do believe you have to be persistently slow and tell/show everyone on the boat how to retreive.

I have also noticed to me it seems as though it happend more so w/ black and porgies than c-bass. But only see it come out of their anus. We had this happen to a keeper a while back put it in the live well and he self deflated, placed him back in the h20 and away he swam. Seems to me they can self deflate, am I wrong?
 

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Self-Deflating

The only popular studies completed on the self-deflating topic has been on Largemouth Bass. As most of you know, all of the Bassmaster tournaments are catch & release. It was determined that letting bass self-deflate in the livewell was causing severe damage to their organs. It was too much stress on the organs for too long of a time that caused the damage.
 

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We had this discussion sometime last year...I believe Gamakatsu had posted an address to some University in Florida that would send you out a free deflating kit...if I can find the post, info, or contact Gami, I'll post it again here.
 

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I think it's a judgement call, if the fish is spent when it reaches the boat and has an obvious build up of gas help it out and deflate. The small juicepack straw seems like it would make to large of a hole for it to mend quickly. I figure when you give blood the puncture from the needle doesn't alow blood to seep out after it is withdrawn probally the same with the fish bladder. However if the fish is strong give it the chance to swim back to depth, along the way as the pressure increases the air bladder will proportionally decrease back to normal. I've seen fishermen on ESPN take the fish like a spear and launch them in a verticle path back towards the bottom. Probally only work on larger fish like Striped Bass, smaller fish like Porgies or C-Bass would most likely need the needle. good thread though, we gotta do what we can to help out our finny friends for the future.
 

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The Method Invented in Africa

In Africa, the sportsfishermen invented another way. I'm not entirely sure that it would work but this is how it goes...

This only works on larger fish. They put a small flounder or porgy size hook on a line with a 16 ounce sinker. They thin "lip hook" the inflated fish just enough on the outside of the top lip so that the 16 ounce sinker can slowly bring the fish down to the bottom. The idea is that as the fish is pulled back to the deep, the gasses deflate from the increase in water pressure. Once on or near the bottom, the fish is held there until the angler could feel it start to swim away. Then, one tug and the hook is pulled free.
 

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DoctorFish, the method you mentioned seems to be the safest way (for both fish and angler) to release fish hooked in deep water. I'm certainly no surgeon let alone trying to handle a hyperdermic needle during a chop/swell and with a fish that's flopping around.....seems a bit dangerous to me. I've heard of the "lip hook" method but never got the chance to try it since most of my fishing is done no deeper than 40'. Thanks for sharing that "preferred" method.

Another note...wouldn't it be easier if the 16oz sinker was tied to the eye of the hook, say 8" away, and the line from the rod tied to the shank of the hook (at the bend)? This way, you lip hook the fish on the outside of the top lip with a barbless hook (hook upside down) and send him to the bottom. One strong jig of the pole should set him free.
 
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