[617467]

coast guard is out in force.both north
and south shore.they had me for 45 min.
checking everything.including the name of the boat. BYTE ME they found that verry offencive.ticketed for expired flares.
can't launch the boat at nite.can't launch early morning.now harassing us
in the daytime. ==== BYTE ME ====

dave

 

[loonzter]

Personally I have no problem with the minor inconvienence of getting pulled over and going through a safety check. I have all my stuff and have nothing to worry about, it normally doesn't take as long as DAVES check usually about 10 -15 minutes tops and I feel good when they tell me to have a nice day. There are a lot of boaters out there that don't have a clue and for all our sake need to be educated by the CG for safety infractions. Helps keep the waters that much safer. I've been checked on 3 separate occasions this season and think it's good they are out there. just my 2 cents.

 

[614212]

Dave,
Unsure of what you mean by "can't launch the boat at nite.can't launch early morning"?
I have no problem with the CG doing inspections. My only concern is that they stop you wherever you are, board and inspect. You could be in a narrow channel, busy area, whatever. And they insist on inspecting you. Hey, give me a chance to drop anchor or pull into a slip and I'll give you all the attention you want.
Be safe and when they are done, thank the CG for being there 24/7.
Capt Tom

 

[Hunt n' Fish]

I saw the coasties running around FI Inlet today. They also had the DEC on board and they checked the boat nearby me. It sounded like they had a busy day today. I heard them talking on the radio all the way down to A.C., N.J. A boat also capsized in Moriches and they were responding immediately according to what I heard on the radio from the guy who called in the report. Glad to have all of them out and about.

And Tom,

They will not usually stop you unless it is safe. Especially for a routine inspection. Once they stop you, your boat and safety become their responsibility. According to my brother, who got out of the CG last year, they will not even pursue boats into shallow or dangerous waters. Apparently it is a major faux pas if they run a boat aground.

 

[seaslug44]

Isn't it just that time of year?

I thought September was the month every year where the new cadets start their training and last year's move up in the ranks. Seems like every year during the first couple of weeks when college starts they get out on the water in full force to show the newbies the ropes. Give it two weeks and I guarantee you they'll be right back to their old routines.

quote:
Its almost like throwing rocks at a bee hive....Eventully your going to piss off the bees. Well with some of the finger pointing here we may have just done that.


Do you really think that a government agency would alter their protocol as a result of what a few fishermen wrote on a Bulletin Board?

 

[614212]

Doughboy,
Thanks for the response.
My experience with them was a few years ago, running home on one engine, the coasties pull me over at the foot of Swift Creek and insisted on inspecting right away. I mentioned that I could not stop, due to an engine out, so they did let me continue, but my wife had to take the wheel and negotiate down a Freeport canal on a weekend day on one engine while I showed the boys around. A lone coastie followed in the RIB while two checked my safety gear.
Good to know that they will not force us into a bad situation, but guess it depend who's definition you're using.
Capt Tom

PS Can't say the same for the harbor folks, but I guess they also are doing there jobs, but maybe a little over-zealous at times.

 

[Hunt n' Fish]

Your right Doc,

There is a whole new batch of ECO's in town and they are making their presence known. I was checked by DEC earlier in the week at the Captree ramp. It was one of the new cadets, and he was waiting for one of the other ECO's to arrive with the boat to head out. This was at 7:30 at night. It's great that they have the enthusiasm at this point to get out there and be seen.

This is the busy season for them as well. Early goose season has started, so they are checking hunting as well as fishing along with all their other duties.

 

[621938]

ask me, who cares

hey, they do there thing and i do mine. i dont complain. they want to see my boat, ill show em. they aint gonna shoot you

one good thing, day after they roll thru. all the weekend warrior are gone. waiting in line at marine store to replace mandated safety items like flares and vests the afore mentioned amature recerational boaters have negelcted, jeporiodzing life and limb. CG knows a beginner boater from salts

also the jetsikis and waterbikes go into hideing

usually a nice day with lite boat traffic after them guys roll thru

i think i speak for all americans in saying we are proude of the job our armed forces are doing in war time america to protect our freedom and safety

dino

 

[noreast]

Prblmsslvd,

If my being critical of the CG in their handling of the Elleni ll has resulted in more inspections, then I would say that?s not necessarily a bad thing. It certainly is a bit of a reach to connect noreast.com to more inspections, but assuming your right I would have to question those motives also.

I guess it would have been better if I swept the issue under the carpet, and not questioned their poor handling of that disaster. I still believe that there were mistakes made, but I don?t think they?re over all ability to respond was ever questioned and as I?ve said before I have the utmost respect for the USCG.

It?s a great country we live in and one of our greatest liberties is our freedom of speech, one that I have always and will continue to exercise.

 

[PGB53]

I don't understand why everyone seems to be so upset about the CG doing safety inspections. I am constantly reading posts about how we need more DEC agents looking into coolers to stop illegal catches, but as soon as you are inconvenienced by an inspection it's harassment. These guys have a job to do and someday if you need that safety equipment you may be glad thet they checked it.

 

[621938]

daves

byte me is the name of your boat? correct

and byte as opposed to bite, right

byte as in computer memory

your name is a play on words, they told you that was offensive? is that what your saying?

just wondering
dino

 

[seaslug44]

quote:
CG knows a beginner boater from salts

Then why did they toy with Daves? He's Dave as in Dave's Bait & Tackle. Far from a beginner...

 

[PGB53]

Doc,
Who is it that you are qouting?

 

[614050]

early august the cg happened to be at my local marina, offering to do inspections. took about 15 minutes and they put on an inspection sticker, good for the year. i'd call up my local cg station and ask when they're doing on the dock inspections, better than getting pulled over.

 

[621938]

dont know doc, you got me

he was quoteing me, in his zeal forgot to give credit

i dont know doc, i was not there and i dont second guess if i was not there

but perhaps i take a guess, was he wearing his aramani suit at the helm?

doc dont take everything so serious, everyone knows what i mean when i says CG stops newbies more than salts, perhaps not everysingle time, but enough that i can say that

they see a guy alone on is well worn fishing boat in his fishing clothes and see five 20 year olds on one of them new boats, who you think they gonna spend there time on giveing inspection?

i say they go for the easy mark and get the kids

just like you do here on this board, Doc...when your feeling like you wanna zing someone here on the board , you go for the apperant "easy mark", you dont spend your time on stuff your gonna loose. CG same as you, same as me, same as a fish(predator), go for the easy mark

just a figure of speach, a generality that everyone else here can live with and had no problem understanding. what are you looking for on the question of yours?

dino
roslynny

 

[21striper]

Doughboy,
I was out in the moriches on 9/7 didnt hear anything about a capsizing. Do you have any details ?

 

[togmaster]

Dave !Dave!DAVE!

Being pulled over is like playing a slot Machine. Hey you got caught with expired flares and that is what upset you. If you didn't have expired flags and you didn't recieve the fine I bet there would be no hard feelings. If you have the saftey equipment which you must because you would of had a lot more fines? Then you would have been on your way. You made a honest mistake it could have happened to any one. If the flares expired this year then they were busting Chops? But if they were over 1 year past ex. then hey dude you only have yourself to blame. Hey you just saved me I actualy checked my flares and there due OCT. This year so Thanks buddy your loss saved Mine.

 

[capt jack]

I'M CAPT JACK AS IN CAPT JACK

Then why did they toy with Daves? He's Dave as in Dave's Bait & Tackle. Far from a beginner...

just so i don't get jumped on....DOCTORFISH made this quote....just wanted to make sure he gets credit.

now my question.
what difference does it make who he is? are you insinuating that because he owns a bait and tackle shop he is the epitome of a boatsman?is it NOT possible that he may NOT be a great boater ,as i am sure you are,we all make mistakes on the water none of us are that good that we do everything just the way it is supposed to be .

THE BOTTOM LINE is they did have reason to stop him,it shows after the fact ,he did have a violation.

DAVE if you read this please don't think i am belitteling your boating skills,i am NOT i am sure you are a safe and courteous boater.it just bothers me when someone assumes that because a person is in a RELATED field it makes them an expert in another field. and i do NOT mean you are the person ASSUMING.it's like saying a car salesperson is an excellent driver.when we all know the two have nothing to do with each other.

remember when stuff happens out there the COAST GUARD are the ones willing to risk it ALL for us.

the elleni tragedy was just that a TRAGEDY.

if everyone is going to start dredging that up then i will ask ONE question!!i will wait before i ask.

again have a good day all.

 

[Hunt n' Fish]

21 Striper,

The only details I can share are what was relayed on the radio on Channel 16. In the early afternoon a capt. called into the CG about a boat that capsized in the breakers outside of Moriches. People in the water were picked up by boats in the vicinity that were having a tough time getting into the break. The capt. making the call had a boat with one disabled motor and was not able to assist other than calling the CG's. He stated he saw the CG boat coming out the inlet shortly after the call and then that was all I heard. They never bumped him up to 22 and they issued a Pon Pon immediately after the intial call.

 

[Capt. Bill]

I think it would be a service to all boaters if one of the moderators posted a list of the CG required safety gear, by boat class. Thanks in advance.