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As of March 1, 2002 a new proposal by the defendants of the framework33 law suit (NMFS, Sec. of state, NMFMC) was to be delivered to the court. It was and reads in summary as follows:
Groundfish Advisors/PDT/IPs:

We just received a fax that described a proposed interim remedy and proposed
secretarial amendment in response to the FW 33 lawuit. I will summarize it
for your information below. I believe my summary is accurate, but you may
want to wait until a more official version is available. These are
multispecies regs - the measures apply to vessels fishing on a multispecies
DAS, or fishing for groundfish.These remedies were to be filed with the
court this afternoon. Any questions should be directed to NMFS - while this
alternative is very similar to Alternative 5 in FW 36, the Council staff did
not participate in developing these proposed remedies.

Interim Action (unless otherwise specified, all current measures remain in
effect - GOM cod trip limit stays at 400/4000):
When fishing in the GOM: Count DAS at a rate of 2:1, restrict vessels from
using more than 25 percent of allocated DAS during each of the first two
quarters of the fishing year (May-July, August-October)
When fishing outside the GOM: Count DAS at a rate of 2:1 May through July,
restrict vessels from using more than 25 percent of allocated DAS during May
through July
All Areas: Count multispecies DAS as a minimum of 24 hours, prohibit front
loading of DAS clock, eliminate large mesh vessel permit category

Additional closures: Maintain WGOM Closed area, close offshore portion of
GOM (blocks 128, 129, 130), add seasonal closure of blocks 124/125 in May,
132/133 in June

Mesh: 6.5 inch diamond or 7 inch square mesh codend, 7 inch mesh gillnet for
vessel fishing in the GOM on a DAS, 7 inch gillnet minimum mesh in GOM, day
gillnet boat allowance of 50 roundfish nets or 100 flatfish nets in all
areas

Recreational Measures:
Rec vessel in the GOM: Minimum cod size of 24 inches in federal waters, bag
limit for cod reduced to 5 fish
Party/charter in the GOM: Minimum cod size of 22 inches, if intending to
fish in GOM rolling closures, must declare into party/charter fishery for
the entire year (cannot sell fish any time during the year)
All rec/party/charter: Prohibited from fishing in WGOM closed area year
round

Secretarial Amendment:
All of the above, plus the following changes:
Eliminate the GOM January through March closure area of blocks 124 and 125,
and the Cashes Ledge closure area (note blocks 128 through 130 remain closed
- this only opens a small part of the Cashes closure that is outside those
blocks)
Recreational (including party/charter) vessels prohibited from fishing for
cod in the GOM from November through March

Tom Nies
Analyst
New England Fishery Management Council
50 Water Street
Newburyport, MA 01950

Phone (978) 465-0492 ext. 19
Fax (978) 465-3116
[email protected]
If this passes or is accepted by the courts then we may get a couple of months of good fishing. The first being April and the second May when the rolling closures keep the draggers and nets off of Jeffries. After those areas open we typically have to travel to the WGOM area to get decent catches. If we are closed out of the WGOM area were dead. In my opinion there is no way a recreational rod and reel fishery is hurting our cod stocks. Again because of excessive by-catch by the commercial sector we the recreational fisherman has to swallow there medicine right along with them. If you could prove to me that a rod and reel recreational fisherman, that is restricted by sea conditions, distance he can travel in a day trip, his ability as an angler (not a professional commercial fisherman), and lastly his economic ability (money he spends to catch his fish) can hurt the cod fishery then I'll go along with these regulations. Most recreational anglers tire quickly, this effects the amount of fish they catch. The fact is the recreational angler has never hurt any ocean fishery. Yet time and time again we are asked to help rebuild the stocks. The recreational angler of today, while greater in number, is much more conservation minded than years ago. They add a enormous amount to the economy while there impact any fishery is minimal. We are told this last year we caught more fish than previous years. That makes sense to me. If the fishery is improving shouldn't we have a right to catch more fish? Do they expect us to just catch what we were able to when the fishery was depleted? I realize there will be a point , maybe, when we will be able to catch far more fish than we really need in a trip. When that happens then we should have a limit in place.
If you haven't taken the time to write your senators and representatives along with any other political figure then now is the time to do it. Although it may be to late.
Please post this on any other boards you may know about.
Thanks, Capt. Spike
 

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As of March 1, 2002 a new proposal by the defendants of the framework33 law suit (NMFS, Sec. of state, NMFMC) was to be delivered to the court. It was and reads in summary as follows:
Groundfish Advisors/PDT/IPs:

We just received a fax that described a proposed interim remedy and proposed
secretarial amendment in response to the FW 33 lawuit. I will summarize it
for your information below. I believe my summary is accurate, but you may
want to wait until a more official version is available. These are
multispecies regs - the measures apply to vessels fishing on a multispecies
DAS, or fishing for groundfish.These remedies were to be filed with the
court this afternoon. Any questions should be directed to NMFS - while this
alternative is very similar to Alternative 5 in FW 36, the Council staff did
not participate in developing these proposed remedies.

Interim Action (unless otherwise specified, all current measures remain in
effect - GOM cod trip limit stays at 400/4000):
When fishing in the GOM: Count DAS at a rate of 2:1, restrict vessels from
using more than 25 percent of allocated DAS during each of the first two
quarters of the fishing year (May-July, August-October)
When fishing outside the GOM: Count DAS at a rate of 2:1 May through July,
restrict vessels from using more than 25 percent of allocated DAS during May
through July
All Areas: Count multispecies DAS as a minimum of 24 hours, prohibit front
loading of DAS clock, eliminate large mesh vessel permit category

Additional closures: Maintain WGOM Closed area, close offshore portion of
GOM (blocks 128, 129, 130), add seasonal closure of blocks 124/125 in May,
132/133 in June

Mesh: 6.5 inch diamond or 7 inch square mesh codend, 7 inch mesh gillnet for
vessel fishing in the GOM on a DAS, 7 inch gillnet minimum mesh in GOM, day
gillnet boat allowance of 50 roundfish nets or 100 flatfish nets in all
areas

Recreational Measures:
Rec vessel in the GOM: Minimum cod size of 24 inches in federal waters, bag
limit for cod reduced to 5 fish
Party/charter in the GOM: Minimum cod size of 22 inches, if intending to
fish in GOM rolling closures, must declare into party/charter fishery for
the entire year (cannot sell fish any time during the year)
All rec/party/charter: Prohibited from fishing in WGOM closed area year
round

Secretarial Amendment:
All of the above, plus the following changes:
Eliminate the GOM January through March closure area of blocks 124 and 125,
and the Cashes Ledge closure area (note blocks 128 through 130 remain closed
- this only opens a small part of the Cashes closure that is outside those
blocks)
Recreational (including party/charter) vessels prohibited from fishing for
cod in the GOM from November through March

Tom Nies
Analyst
New England Fishery Management Council
50 Water Street
Newburyport, MA 01950

Phone (978) 465-0492 ext. 19
Fax (978) 465-3116
[email protected]
If this passes or is accepted by the courts then we may get a couple of months of good fishing. The first being April and the second May when the rolling closures keep the draggers and nets off of Jeffries. After those areas open we typically have to travel to the WGOM area to get decent catches. If we are closed out of the WGOM area were dead. In my opinion there is no way a recreational rod and reel fishery is hurting our cod stocks. Again because of excessive by-catch by the commercial sector we the recreational fisherman has to swallow there medicine right along with them. If you could prove to me that a rod and reel recreational fisherman, that is restricted by sea conditions, distance he can travel in a day trip, his ability as an angler (not a professional commercial fisherman), and lastly his economic ability (money he spends to catch his fish) can hurt the cod fishery then I'll go along with these regulations. Most recreational anglers tire quickly, this effects the amount of fish they catch. The fact is the recreational angler has never hurt any ocean fishery. Yet time and time again we are asked to help rebuild the stocks. The recreational angler of today, while greater in number, is much more conservation minded than years ago. They add a enormous amount to the economy while there impact any fishery is minimal. We are told this last year we caught more fish than previous years. That makes sense to me. If the fishery is improving shouldn't we have a right to catch more fish? Do they expect us to just catch what we were able to when the fishery was depleted? I realize there will be a point , maybe, when we will be able to catch far more fish than we really need in a trip. When that happens then we should have a limit in place.
If you haven't taken the time to write your senators and representatives along with any other political figure then now is the time to do it. Although it may be to late.
Please post this on any other boards you may know about.
Thanks, Capt. Spike
 
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