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I've been fishing the bay for over 30 years and i can't remember the bay ever being this dirty this early. The water is a murky brown. Last time i can remember it even resembling the color is when the brown tide hit really bad over a decade ago. I wonder whats going to happen this summer when the bay heats up. I supprised no one is really talking about it or the cause. I could be wrong, other then bluefish the bay seems to be absent of life. I wonder if the south west sewer district is leaking ????? Any guesses
 

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Looks like coffee. Tried today around Sayville in my usual spots for nothing. No weakies no nothing. Do not see any crabs either. Had crabs at the docks a month ago do not see them now. Last year bay was packed with bunker this time of year with lots of fishies chaseing them this year nothing. Believe it is Brown Tide think there was even a story in Newsday about it being the earliest in the season the tide has been scene. Really stinks with fuel prices the way they were I did want to have to travel to far to find some fish. Guees I Will just be drinking beer...
 

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It is certainly an algae bloom, and this is the fourth of the year. I would pin the blame on the rain we've been having, along w/ the distressed state of the bay and low level of flushing we get from the shoal inlets.

If the temperature is wrong for the aurococcus, then it's something else w/o green chlorophyl.

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CaptPaul wrote:
I would pin the blame on the rain we've been having.

Capt Paul could you please elaborate on this I'm interested in knowing what this has to do with the bloom.

Thanks...

This post edited by Bassh0le007 10:21 PM 05/28/2008
 

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During the typical summer blooms, drought is often blamed, and rainfall cited as the necessary terminator of the blooms. However, this time of year, I feel that the rain washes the needed nutrients for the bloom into the bay, and the reduced flush from restricted inlets maintains the nutrient levels. Brown tides produce nutrients in their life cycle, which helps to perpetuate their development in the early stages of a bloom.

I also failed to mention that the wind we have been suffereing under greatly aids in the length and extent of the bloom, keeping nutrients and algae mixed in the column, and possibly aiding reproduction. Normally, large amounts of the organism will sink to the bottom, and die when it losses sunlight. If there were a clam population like the seventies, the bloom would simply be a food source fo them, until it gets to a full "brown" stage, when the clams seem to stop feeding.

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It's not the rain, but the nitrates that the rain washes from lawns into the bay. That stuff is made to make plants grow, so when it hits the bay it makes the algee grow. Perhaps a good storm with the right winds will flush the bay and get this stuff out of here.

The DEC has to get involved and put some sort of restrictions on the type of fertilizer that can be used and when.
 

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Brown GSB

It was really bad this past weekend, could barely make out sandbars that are normally clear as day. I have seen very little bait or birds working on the east end of the bay. I have also noticed several dead juvenile crabs in the shallows around my boat.
 

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brown water

I was driving over the Robert Moses Bridge (The north bridge) and I couldn't believe what it looked like. Someone wrote that Brown Tide occurs when the water warms up but this just looked nasty!!! I hope it doesn't end up doing some real damage to the marine life.

Capt. Rick Cohen

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Whats a little brown water and dead marine life?
Lawn Island lawns are green & lush and look oh so pretty

Keep dumping fertilizer onto them


These days theres even a 4 step program that makes sure your silly greenery is fed year 'round!

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I was at the inlet on Friday and could not believe the difference between the incoming water and the sludge that was left from the outgoing.

There was a distinct break in the water where the bay water and the ocean water met. I have never been to the Gulf Stream but it sure looked like eveything I have ever read about that break.

My marina looks like a waste storage facility.

GW
 
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