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i posted with the fly guys but somebody here might know as well

i'm looking for advice on using flys as teasers for my plugs i throw.
?how long from the plug,? in front of behind, ?what type of flys are best ?under what conditions? and any other tidbits of knowledge you guys could pass along.
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Teasers

Used them for a few seasons, but found they caught fish but not big fish. Use a 30# mono leader. Tie a cinch knot to a barrel swivel with a short 12-18" length and a longer 24"-36" length. Tie the shorter length directly to the teaser fly and the longer length to a snap swivel. You can put any lure you want on the snap swivel. Than tie this rig to your line. As for the fly I found White Clousers were the most productive. If Blue fish are around you will go through a lot of flys.
 

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If ya gonna tie on a teaser make the leader going to the teaser lighter test then to the plug. If ya get a double header of nice fish there its a pretty darn good chance they will snap one of the leaders and its better to lose a teaser then a $15 plug. And it will happen more then ya think. Try 50lb floro to the plug and 30 to the teaser. Or for northshore try 25/15.
 

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Best of luck finding Red Gills! I've been shopping for them in the 4 1/2" size since last year! I have had some luck surfing the web for out of state shops and got a few although I had no choice in color. It's "take what you can get" since they stopped importing them from the UK.
You could buy some from shops in England but it's a cool challange to find them here!
It's the only teaser I'll use. Eddy stone and Ragloo make good imposters but Red Gill is the best and only as far as I'm concerned. Only problem I find with them is that they have a weight issue. Your casts will fall shorter than without them.(I use them at night with a Bomber) Given this I shorten my teaser tie off to about 6" from the barrel swivel to the nose of the Red Gill. Wouldn't fish the N/S without one. Some nights ALL fish take the teaser.
Again, good luck!
 

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AHHHHHHH,Billy & Hank,Did I get your attention.

Yes they are hard to find.As you know I will not post as to WHERE here.Sorry.
I know of 3 shops that have them in many colors sitting on the counter right NOW.Very Expensive.$2.00 a piece.I remember when you could gettem anywhere for .50 cents.
Don't worry I'll get the shops names out to ya,as soon as I buy my share.In the spring forget about it,you can't find em.You know what will happen if I post Where right now.They'll be none for me.No harm intended.PM me for info.
 

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Taipan, you need at least 30lb on the teaser to get it to stand off and not tangle your main line. Smaller fish? I don't know what you call small fish but I've had fish to 30lbs on a Red Gill. JPF, expensive? Try buying some store bought flies for teasers, at 2 bucks a pop there cheaper,work better and IMO last longer. Jim, better stock up while the gettings good, you'll never know when supplies run out. During the dark days I was super glueing my last 3 together every trip 12 years ago. Don't forget to get yours as everyone you tell, tells a dozen more and the supply is not infinite. I had at least a hundred in the bank before I told anyone. Harsh, selfish? You bet! 90% of the fish I catch I do on them. During the old days I would have gladly paid $10 a piece as nothing works as well day in and day out. Prospector
 

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bigbillybass, I think the Red Gills are great, I use them with 30-40# leader tied about 12"-18" off a barrel and have another 48" off the same barrel to my snap for the main lure. I have never caught anything very large off the teaser, but I have caught some decent fish on the main lure when using the teaser, I think it helps get them in the attack feeding mode.

Merry Christmas,
MakoMatt
 

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BBB...

1. Lest we forget, Tony Stetzko's(sp) 73# bass in the surf was caught on a black feather fished in front of an eel. It was bulkier than your average fly but none the less the fish went for the smaller artificial as opposed to the larger natural.

2. In 1990 I fished extensively with black feather teasers. One particular night by the south side overlook I had in the neighborhood of fifty fish. The water was big with a very heavy sweep. The teaser probably oufished the 3 ounce bottle plug two to one and took the bigger fish.

3. As for doubleheaders the biggest pair I've caught was a pair of twenty pound fish. I honestly believe that two fish fighting cannot gnerate much leverage. On my end I felt the added weight , but not much pull. Two decent fish trying to pull directly opposite one another will probably beating they're tails together and not generating much force. Just an opinion, nothing I'd stake a lot of money on.

4. Big bait, big fish. Generally I'd have to agree, but think for a minute, blue whales are the largest creatures on earth, yet they feed on plankton and krill. I've seen documentaries where blue sharks are going wild feeding on krill. Bass are opportunists. They'll eat just about anything they can swallow and some things that they can't. I've seen em with skates in their bellies, definitely not gourmet diners. Some people fish exclusively for big fish and others just fish to catch. If you catch enough of them eventually you'll take some nice fish, and teasers will certainly increase your catch.

5. At one point this year the bass would come in real thick but seemed to develop lockjaw.Thousands of fished swimming and feeding shoulder to shoulder and most would not touch anything. It was frustrating. Being more than a litlle dense I neglected to try the teasers that I used so often in the early nineties. I dug one out a few weeks later, a little yellow and white buctail streamer a friend had tied up for me. I got a chance to use it one day when the fish were in around the rocks. Guys were catching, but not as frequently as the number of fish would indicate. I took ten fish before the school moved out. The closest guy on my right was about 75 feet away. He started to take notice as I had fish on four or five succesive casts. He was straining to see what I was using.I'll be stocking up on flies this winter.

6. The only thing I can add to the info that was given would be to tie up a few with leaders and keep them in your leader wallet. Put a loop in the end of the leader and you can interchange them easily, different size, different color, or just remove em when the choppers show up.

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There is no doubt that teasers can catch big bass. I think teasers have there place. I see some guys use them when the bass are on big baits like herring or bunker-not necessary. I use them only when necessary. Necessary but not exclusive situauations include 1.There are loads of sand eels in the water and the bass are feeeding on nothing but. 2. Bass are slurping on loads of spearing in the middle of the night.3There is very little to no white water and the bass are on white bait--that can be a very tough situation. Just a little tip--I love the the 3" slug-o brown and silver -used as a teaser when sand eels are present. Use a oshannessey (spell?) hook and thread the hook around the shaft. Epoxy the thread. this will hold the slug-o in place. Take the slug-o and push it up so that it is covering the eye of the hook. The slug-o has to be perfectly set on the hook or Mrs striper will not take it. ie: it cant be bent or twisted or upside down. Also make sure that your leader to the teaser has no kinks in it-extremely important. It has to be perfectly straight.I use no less then 40# and no more then 50# clear mono leader for my teasers.Any less and your dealing with twists with your main leader-any more and your dealing with kinks. I use an inproved clinch tied to my barrel swivel. I dont use over 3 twists when tying the knot as 4 or more increases the chances of kinking the line. If you should get a kink try biting down lightly on the line and rubbing it back and forth between your teeth several times-more times then not it will take out the kinks. Anyway those are some of the things I do and would recommend.Im going to do 2 lectures at the Freeport show and plan on dedicating a lot of time to teasers. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I always get tangles

No matter what I do I get tangled up when I attempt to use a teaser, but when I was experimenting with them I was useing a fly I think, looked like a spearing, and the material was kind of braided and metallic.
 
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