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Norm I was wondering how many guys are going to spend the approximately $100.00 it costs and the travel time to keep 4 fish. I usually fish out there 15 to 20 times a year and there are a group of us who do this. We are not market fisherman but enjoy a full day of fishing and also enjoy eating the fish we catch. George if you happen to read this could you take a pole and see how many guys would be happy wiyh a 4 fish limit? Or guys an unoffical pole on the message board about pros and cons. Lou