Using bellies from a previous trip could be a problem. They could be mistaken for a freshly filleted undersized fluke. It is recommended if using bellies keep the remainder of the fish on board in case DEP boards you.
Fluke bellies
Does anybody know the regs. on using fluke belly. I've heard yes and no from different people. I don't see why this would be a problem if your using it from fluke that was filleted from a previous trip. What's the real deal?
Tight lines!!!!
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If I had Fluke bellies from a previous trip I definitely would use them and not worry about any regulation. The rule as I remember it is you are allowed to cut strips from the white side of Fluke to use as bait.
The Sea-Cilian
The Sea-Cilian
Sea-cilian,
I could be mistaken bur I was pretty sure that you needed to keep the brown side from the fluke to show that it wasn't undersized.
I could be mistaken bur I was pretty sure that you needed to keep the brown side from the fluke to show that it wasn't undersized.
also what you can use is the ribbins on either side.If you fish in sandy water try and use the dark side cut into strips.I have seen many big fish caught on the dark side. Either side will work.
good luck in your search for bubba.
good luck in your search for bubba.
HERE'S THE OFFICIAL NYS LAW;
"Summer flounder may not have heads or tails removed or be otherwise cleaned, cut, filleted, or skinned until brought to shore, with the following exception: the white side fillet or white skin only of a legal size fluke may be removed to use as bait. The carcass of the fluke with dark side completely intact must be retained for inspection of size limit and counts against the possession limit."
To summarize, you can only use the white belly, not the dark side. The carcass must be with you.
"Summer flounder may not have heads or tails removed or be otherwise cleaned, cut, filleted, or skinned until brought to shore, with the following exception: the white side fillet or white skin only of a legal size fluke may be removed to use as bait. The carcass of the fluke with dark side completely intact must be retained for inspection of size limit and counts against the possession limit."
To summarize, you can only use the white belly, not the dark side. The carcass must be with you.
I spoke with a NJ F&G officer last year and he told me that you can use fluke belly(white or dark side) for bait but it must be from a fish in your possession that day. of course that fish must be of legal size and counts towards your daily possession limit. I guess they dont want you using the bellies from a previous trip as there's no way to show if it came off of a legal fluke.
What if you buy a fluke at the market, fillet it and keep the skins?
jk Use sea robin strips, much tougher, works better.
jk Use sea robin strips, much tougher, works better.
Using Sea Robins as Bait
Codman - what's the preferred way to fillet and present sea robin as fluke bait? I certainly come across many sea robins, so I might as well give it a shot.
Codman - what's the preferred way to fillet and present sea robin as fluke bait? I certainly come across many sea robins, so I might as well give it a shot.
you can make 2 thin strip fillets from each side of the fish. Watch out for the little bones (they hurt) and the spikes. Also be careful when hooking the robin fillets as the skin is tough.
you can make 2 thin strip fillets from each side of the fish. Watch out for the little bones (they hurt) and the spikes. Also be careful when hooking the robin fillets as the skin is tough.
old, but legal fluke belly strips
just make sure your strips are at least 17" long and you're home free.
just make sure your strips are at least 17" long and you're home free.
fluke belly as bait
i detect a loop hole in the nys law desrciption it say once u bring it to shore?
i detect a loop hole in the nys law desrciption it say once u bring it to shore?
guys, thanks for all the info. I'm glad I wasn't the only one unsure. I agree with using sea robbins as well. Have had great success with them and are very tough to get off the hook.
Hi Folks,
Doctorfish is 100% correct (NYS Regs)!
"Summer flounder may not have heads or tails removed or be otherwise cleaned, cut, filleted, or skinned until brought to shore, with the following exception: the white side fillet or white skin only of a legal size fluke may be removed to use as bait. The carcass of the fluke with dark side completely intact must be retained for inspection of size limit and counts against the possession limit."
This rule applies only to recreational fishermen! With the exception of Charter and Party boats (they are allowed to fillet both sides!)
Do you know why?
"Crazy" Alberto
[email protected]
Doctorfish is 100% correct (NYS Regs)!
"Summer flounder may not have heads or tails removed or be otherwise cleaned, cut, filleted, or skinned until brought to shore, with the following exception: the white side fillet or white skin only of a legal size fluke may be removed to use as bait. The carcass of the fluke with dark side completely intact must be retained for inspection of size limit and counts against the possession limit."
This rule applies only to recreational fishermen! With the exception of Charter and Party boats (they are allowed to fillet both sides!)
Do you know why?
"Crazy" Alberto
[email protected]
Good question
Does it have anything to do with allowing mates to clean most of the fish before they reach the dock for sanitary reasons around the shore?
Does it have anything to do with allowing mates to clean most of the fish before they reach the dock for sanitary reasons around the shore?
DoctorFish,
Once again... You are correct!
Here is another question regarding this fluke fillet law...
What are the "two" main reasons why they imposed this (filleting white side only)... Do you know?
"Crazy" Alberto
[email protected]
Once again... You are correct!
Here is another question regarding this fluke fillet law...
What are the "two" main reasons why they imposed this (filleting white side only)... Do you know?
"Crazy" Alberto
[email protected]
SEAROBIN BAIT
I have used searobin strips before and they do work. They also last a long time because they are so tough.
As to the above post I don't have a clue but would like to see the answere.
Bill
I have used searobin strips before and they do work. They also last a long time because they are so tough.
As to the above post I don't have a clue but would like to see the answere.
Bill
bcmeyer wrote:
I have used searobin strips before and they do work. They also last a long time because they are so tough.
As to the above post I don't have a clue but would like to see the answer.
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Hello Bill,
I totally agree with you on the Sea Robin strips. In fact, my favorite part of the Sea Robin is the sides (white with a tint of orange)!
The answers to my question are ....
The "two" main reasons why they impose filleting the white side only are:
1) With the dark side intact - It is very difficult to stretch the fish!
For example... If you fillet the dark side off (and leave the white belly portion on) - You can easily gain 1"-2" from the original size. Hence… a 15" fluke can be stretched to 17"!
2) The other reason is to easily "identify the fish" . Another words, aside from it's obvious fluke teeth (flounder = no teeth)... Fluke has noticeable spots (rings) where a flounder does not.
"Crazy" Alberto
[email protected]
I have used searobin strips before and they do work. They also last a long time because they are so tough.
As to the above post I don't have a clue but would like to see the answer.
_________________________________________
Hello Bill,
I totally agree with you on the Sea Robin strips. In fact, my favorite part of the Sea Robin is the sides (white with a tint of orange)!
The answers to my question are ....
The "two" main reasons why they impose filleting the white side only are:
1) With the dark side intact - It is very difficult to stretch the fish!
For example... If you fillet the dark side off (and leave the white belly portion on) - You can easily gain 1"-2" from the original size. Hence… a 15" fluke can be stretched to 17"!
2) The other reason is to easily "identify the fish" . Another words, aside from it's obvious fluke teeth (flounder = no teeth)... Fluke has noticeable spots (rings) where a flounder does not.
"Crazy" Alberto
[email protected]
the color
I thought that the color of the whit belly would be more productive then the dark side. I had no idea the you could stretch the fish.
Also that white and orange strip is a killer especially if there is some fresh meat on it. I went to that the other day with my 10 year old on the boat and he got upset about me killing a fish for bait. Needless to say the robin went back to harras someone else for a day.
Bill
I thought that the color of the whit belly would be more productive then the dark side. I had no idea the you could stretch the fish.
Also that white and orange strip is a killer especially if there is some fresh meat on it. I went to that the other day with my 10 year old on the boat and he got upset about me killing a fish for bait. Needless to say the robin went back to harras someone else for a day.
Bill
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